| Thats the beauty of a vertical dipole.  No need to try and achieve a perfect 
ground.   My 40M ground plane vertical I had with 8 elevated radials 10 feet 
above the ground was a good performer for DX but the vertical dipole knocks it 
socks off, hihi.      I am taking down the horizontal dipole since I only chase 
DX.   
How is your ground conductivity ?   Mine is very good.
Bob
K6UJ
> On Oct 22, 2020, at 9:39 AM, john@kk9a.com wrote:
> 
> I find this very surprising!  A vertical does not really have a low radiation 
> angle unless it is over a perfect ground.  Assuming that your vertical dipole 
> base is near the ground I would expect the 115 ft high dipole blow it away 
> the in the favored direction.
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> Robert Harmon k6uj wrote:
> 
> I actually did the same scenario here.   I have a full size 40M dipole at 115 
> feet and I fabbed a vertical full size dipole for 40M and hung it from the 
> side of the tower for comaprison.   On DX the vertical won hands down on 
> every sig.   On closer in, stateside stuff stuff the horizontal dipole was 
> the best.  Not suprising, the vertical dipole has a lower angle of radiation. 
>   I also checked to be sure the tower wasn't interacting with the vertical 
> dipole to be sure it didn't screw up th pattern.  I am very pleased with the 
> vertical dipole's performance (for DX)
> 
> Bob
> K6UJ
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