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Re: [TowerTalk] Insights on 30m EDZ - nowhere near what I thought

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Insights on 30m EDZ - nowhere near what I thought
From: Neal Sulmeyer <Neal@K4EA.NET>
Reply-to: Neal Sulmeyer <Neal@K4EA.NET>
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2020 13:12:23 -0500
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resonance is the tendency of a system to vibrate with increasing amplitudes at 
some frequencies of excitation. These are known as the system's resonant 
frequencies (or resonance frequencies). The resonator may have a fundamental 
frequency and any number of harmonics.

Ken,

Do not confuse "resonance" with "matching".  Many educated people make this 
mistake.  A doublet cut as an EDZ is not resonant at the design frequency.   
With open wire (or window line) feedline to a 4:1 balun and the a stub to 
cancel out the reactance, you match it to your 50 ohm feedline (and radio).  I 
have several such antennas. Two on 20M, one on 40M and one on 30M.

The length of the open feedline to the 4:1 balun is critical, but can be 
extended by 1/2 wave multiples (don't forget velocity factor when doing the 
calculations).  There is no point in extending the (shorted) stub. Also be sure 
you know the impedance and velocity factor of your open wire feedline.  Don't 
assume the value.  Measure it!

Also, window or ladder line, is severely impacted by water (rain) adhering to 
it.  Be sure everything is dry and don't expect the match to hold when it gets 
wet.  I learned the hard way and now just make my own open wire feed lines.

Neal, K4EA  



On Tue, 02/04/2020 06:05 PM, Ken Bauer via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com> 
wrote:
> 
I thought this would be easy, but I’ve screwed it up. I’m hoping to get some 
insights from this group of antenna experts re the easiest way to proceed!  
Perhaps someone could model it for me?
> 
> I used the calculator at West Mountain Radio:  
> http://www.westmountainradio.com/antenna_calculator_zepp.php
> 
> Looking for resonance at 10.120mhz. I ordered supplies from Davis RF: their 
> balanced line / coax center insulator, 14awg solid copperweld and 16awg 
> 19strand copperweld 450 ohm ladder line. I ordered a Balun Designs 4:1 
> current balun.
> 
> The WMR calculator recommended a matching stub of ladderline 10’ 2.2” and 
> each leg of the antenna as 61’ 3.1”. 
> 
> I thought I would add a half wavelength of ladderline to the stub thinking 
> that this would present the same impedance present at the recommended stub 
> length. Figuring a .91% velocity factor, I added 44.22’ to the stub for a 
> total ladder line length of 54’ 5” between the center insulator and the 
> balun. I temporarily set the antenna legs lengths at 61’ 5” and wound about 
> 18” of overage back on the antenna wire leg towards the center insulator on 
> each side.
> 
> I hoisted this up to about 70’ , pretty much in the clear, other than some 
> pine branches at each end. 10’ of RG-213 to my RigExpert AA-55 Zoom dangling 
> at about eye level.
> 
> The SWR plot  shows a dip at 10.9mhz w SWR of 3.7:1  and a dip at 13.02mhz w 
> SWR of 2.7:1.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any insights!
> 
> 73,
> Ken WC6Y
> 
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