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Re: [TowerTalk] Dielectric Grease

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Dielectric Grease
From: Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 16:05:12 -0700
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Thanks for the feedback, guys.   
One picture is worth a thousand words.  Below is a picture of the choke balun.
It is going to be attached to a T shaped Lexan plate for an inverted V center 
connection.
The RG-400 runs inside the PVC pipe and connects to the SO-239's at each end.
I am worried about condensation inside and was planning on pumping it full of 
dielectric grease. 
Maybe just simply drilling a weep hole in the bottom end so it can breath and 
any dry out any condensation would be sufficient.

https://i.postimg.cc/QtFCSc90/IMG-2754.jpg 
<https://i.postimg.cc/QtFCSc90/IMG-2754.jpg>


Bob
K6UJ


> On Sep 22, 2019, at 3:44 PM, jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> On 9/22/19 2:24 PM, Grant Saviers wrote:
>> The extra dielectric is going to increase the stray capacitance and the PVC 
>> has loss.  So expect a lower self resonant frequency and more loss.
>> I'm trying to make some high Q coils and conclude PVC pipe is a poor form, 
>> even machined into a skeleton support.  That's CW but I thought a skeleton 
>> might be ok - NOT.  I think grey PVC is grey in part to a clay filler to 
>> make it UV resistant.
> 
> 
> WHy not use some form of fiberglass tube? McMaster has it in all sizes and 
> shapes that would be suitable.
> 
> Yes, glass is somewhat lossy at microwave frequencies, but this is for a HF 
> antenna.
> 
> Or choose a traditional material like linen or paper phenolic.
> 
> 
> 
>> Then a challenge is the grease should have very low moisture absorption or 
>> the (I suspect) reason for it is negated or worse.
>> On my RG400/316/179 etc pigtail ends I apply a little red insulating varnish 
>> which wicks into the braid amazingly far.  The plan is to prevent water from 
>> wicking.  A downside of TFE coax is almost nothing will stick to it.  I also 
>> apply the varnish around all bulkhead connector flanges and screws.
>> Grant KZ1W
>> On 9/22/2019 11:46 AM, Robert Harmon wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am making a current balun with a 2.4" OD Fair Rite core wound with 
>>> RG-400.  PVC pipe is going thru the center and the RG-400
>>> is routed thru the inside to SO-239's in PVC pipe caps on the ends.    I am 
>>> planning on flooding the choke with dielectric grease
>>> before completing the assembly and I'm trying to decide what dielectric 
>>> grease to use.   What would you use ?  Super Lube is supposed
>>> to be a dielectric greae, would it be suitable ?
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> K6UJ
>>> 
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