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Re: [TowerTalk] Grounding

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Grounding
From: K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 16:46:03 -0500
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My tower hasn't been hit yet, but something about a half mile away got seriously hammered the other night. I haven't heard of any damage, but it must have awakened the whole neighborhood. Just a little reminder.

73,
Scott K9MA

On 9/4/2019 16:35, Bob Shohet, KQ2M wrote:
Stop a direct hit?   No!

Make your appliance less likely to be damaged or destroyed?   Yes!

There are no protection absolutes when it comes to lightning strikes.  All you can hope to do 
is make your valuables less inviting of a target relative to other potential targets, and 
provide the shortest low resistance paths to ground in an attempt to help divide up and 
“control” the effects of that strike.

I too make sure to disconnect EVERYTHING in my shack when not in use during the 
lightning months as well as when it appears that a T-storm is on the way.  
Grounding alone is not enough at this qth.  You must disconnect everything 
INSIDE.  That is no guaranty either but it does afford an additional level of 
protection, the vast majority of the time.

I have had EMP’s from strikes on my towers that have been so powerful that they have lit up my 
TV’s even though we had lost electrical power, and 18 years ago actually caused a battery operated 
doll of my daughter’s to start walking and talking!  I have also lost a few circuit boards inside 
one of my FT 1000MP’s and a 2 meter radio in that same storm.  Nothing was attached to either of 
those radios at the time.

I have also had lightning come into the house through the phone lines, cable lines and 
the well.  One strike on my tower two years ago (when everything was disconnected!) 
actually induced a big ZAPPP! in my the radiator in the kitchen – and a nasty 
arc between the radiator and the wall that gave off a burning smell.    In the 21 
years that I have had my two towers up, and taken probably 10 or so direct and 
indirect hits, that had not happened before or since.  We are still not quite sure how 
that happened since nothing else was affected.

Use all the lightning protection that you can and disconnect everything when 
not in use!

73

Bob KQ2M


From: John Mardock
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2019 3:17 PM
To: TowerTalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Grounding

If lightning propagates several thousand feet through the air to get to your
Antenna/Shack/Home does anyone think a small gap arrestor is going to stop a
direct hit? Silly question, yes?

John Mardock KRØP
j@mardock.us
j@KRØP.us
402-525-6111

-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Hoyt
Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 13:38
To: TowerTalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Grounding

Keith, all,

I will amplify this a bit; a direct strike to anything on or within the home
can be catastrophic.  I'm a broadcast engineer and I will not degrade list
s/n by elaborating how extensive grounding systems are in our broadcast
facilities.  Even so I have seen some very scary results of lightning such
as a helical element on an FM panel array fused into a ball of copper, and
even with these spec ground systems I've seen damage to equipment on the
ground. 6" hardline has a pretty high peak voltage rating, 50 kV or more
when pressurized and I have seen loading caps in PAs burnt up by
lightning-initiated transients, followed by the HV PS feeding the arc.

Due to my 'respect' for lightning and what I have seen it do, I have always
been very wary with my ham setup.  When not in use or when lightning is
anticipated I actually disconnect the feedline where it enters the house,
and walk it 30' away under a tree and stick the PL-259 into a clean dry wine
bottle.  As a result I have never suffered equipment damage in my house due
to lightning striking my ham antenna.  Damage to the antenna, sure, but that
was all.

Just about a year ago I had lightning strike my TV antenna, which was on a
20' mast grounded with an 8' rod and a gas-tube "F" connector arrrestor.
The antenna was lower than the peak of my house and under 90' trees, but
lightning, likely a side-strike found my TV antenna.  It melted the end of
one of the alumninum elements, and then followed the RG-6 into my house and
got to work.  It destroyed the TV which was wired ethernet connected to my
router.  From there it propagated everywhere wrecking audio/video/all IT
infrastructure/PCs/PV Inverters/electronics test bench equipment.
Fortunately the ham gear, not being ethernet connected was largely spared
other than the USB dongle and minor grounding damage.  It vaporized Cat 6 in
places, and has taken me months and ~$30k to remediate.  Thanks to an Eaton
commercial TVSS in my main panel no damage propagated via H/N/G AC wiring
differentials.  As a side note I HIGHLY recommend Auto Owners Insurance, I
was getting deposits in my account hours after submitting invoices.

In order to minimize a re-occurrence I have optically coupled the Ethernet
and HDMI connections to the TV.  I looked into a broadband uV level optical
converter to isolate just the TV antenna but there is currently no such
animal, so as of now if lightning hits the new antenna the TV is
sacrificial.  Some have asked why I just don't do Wifi with the TV, and that
its because I like 4k HD content which has not been reliable with WiFi
despite optimal TV IP configuration.  Others have stated if the TV mast
ground was bonded to my house ground no damage would have happened, but
although a good idea, it is likely to have made little difference in the
outcome.  The TV mast is 50 feet away from the main panel and it's ground
rods.  Any conductor, even if punctuated with rods every 16 feet would have
28 uH of inductance and high capacitance to the earth, so the resulting
transient would take >100 nS to reach the house ground and equalize the
charge there.  In the meanwhile due to ground potential rise the earth
around the TV ground rod and the TV coax shield are at perhaps tens of
thousands of volts of potential differential to the house AC system and all
connected devices.

As is the case with broadcast facilities, it would be optimum to have all
external utilities enter at the system grounding point as I have done at FM
stations, so maybe I will move the TV antenna...

This situation exists for most homes with TV antennas, wireless dog fences
and other wiring external to the house, so be prudent!

Just my 2¢ worth.
Howie / WA4PSC


>from [Keith Dutson] NM5G
My experience is that lightning can be managed, to a point.
A direct strike to your tower can be catastrophic.
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