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Re: [TowerTalk] "Stake all nuts"; what does it mean?

To: "Speer, Douglas" <Douglas.Speer@cns.doe.gov>, "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] "Stake all nuts"; what does it mean?
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 10:10:09 -0700
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Antennas are usually not high vibration environments, unless they buzz/vibrate in the wind.  Then it matters much more how secure are the fastening parts.  Another factor I consider is the downside of a failed connection.  An element falling off is different then a tower coming down.  Perhaps there are life safety connections such as wire locked safety nuts in aircraft, but I haven't gone that far.

Nylocks seem to work fine for all of my antenna connections from tip to mast.  For tower legs I'm using Nord-Locks on the plate connections of Rohn 65 where a failure is not so good.  The Nord-Lock test video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKwWu2w1gGk

IMO, tightening to the torque spec for the grade of fastener and then re-torquing a day or two later is the best way to keep stuff together.  Consider that structural steel framing bolts have no locking means, they are just torqued to the max.  A problem though is so many antenna fasteners can't be so torqued properly since the elements deform.  In that case I think UV resistant nylocks are the choice (or at least all nuts on the underside)

Grant KZ1W

On 9/17/2018 9:17 AM, Speer, Douglas via TowerTalk wrote:
I used a lock washer, torqued a first nut then installed a second nut on my 
equalizer plate bolts.  Is this an acceptable practice?   After two years in 
service,  I have not seen any evidence of any loosening.

Doug, W5WTX
Amarillo, TX



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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 11:12:04 -0700
From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
To: towertalk reflector <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Rohn EP instructions: "Stake all nuts"; what does
        it mean?
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The instruction sheet that came with my Rohn guy equalizer plates states:

"Stake all nuts after assembly"

The kit of parts includes bolts, regular hex nuts, and "PAL nuts".  Assembly 
order is that the regular nut goes on first, then the PAL nut with the edge lip out.  IE, 
the flat side of it faces the regular nut.

Questions:

Do I torque the regular nut nice and tight with a wrench, then install the PAL? 
 Do I tighten the PAL nut finger tight, or gently tighten it just a little with 
a wrench.  I have no experience with these PAL nuts, but they don't look like 
they would withstand much torque.

Finally:

What does "stake all nuts" refer to????
I am imagining whacking them with a hammer or something ... but that can't be 
right?

Note:  the Rohn drawing is dated "1964" :-) Been licensed since 1965 and have 
never seen PAL nuts before.

Rick N6RK


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