I’m sorry to learn that Tonno lost his tower and incredible 8 x 5 L array.
It’s terrible that it happened when it was so easily preventable!
For each of my tower guys, I always cut them so that each guy has an extra 5 ‘
– 10’ of 1/4” EHS left over, and then, rather than cut off the excess, I simply
run the extra through both ends of all the turnbuckles and then through all the
bolts on the equalizer plate.
It doesn’t make any sense to allow the turnbuckles to potentially turn and undo
themselves and thereby jeopardize the tower. I even use ice clips for the same
reason on every guy wire – to potentially prevent yet another mode of failure –
especially one that is so prevalent at my qth.
73
Bob KQ2M
From: Grant Saviers
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:43 PM
To: Wayne Kline ; Keith Dutson ; k1ttt@arrl.net ; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Turnbuckles with Rod Sides
The wire rope clips are also completely misplaced on the ES5TV guys.
They should be about 2" apart and first one tight to the thimble. I
can't tell from the video if he saddled a dead horse. l'd also bet there
was no torque wrench used. It looks like pretty skimpy wire and
turnbuckles for that load even with 5 levels of guys. Sad. So easy to
do right.
A figure eight of EHS thru the eyes/jaws and center not only prevents
rotation but covers several turnbuckle failure modes as well (done on my
tower). If the thimble and anchor shackle are large enough to thread
the EHS thru then with any turnbuckle failure the guy is still attached.
Grant KZ1W
On 9/11/2017 16:34 PM, Wayne Kline wrote:
> If my gray matter recalls, ES5TV lost his fantastic 8 - 5 element H
> frame ARRAY because he did not use safety wires on the turnbuckles and lost
> the installation ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9fDlbIFhMs&t=7s
>
>
> Wayne W3EA
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> on behalf of Wayne Kline
> <w3ea@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:26 PM
> To: Keith Dutson; k1ttt@arrl.net; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Turnbuckles with Rod Sides
>
> I Ditto that Dave.
>
>
> The Bible ( Rohn Catalogs ) as far back as I can remember always had a
> diagram in the "general " Tab of the catalog regarding
>
> A: the Safety Wire ( through the turnbuckles Bodies and Eyes )
>
>
> B: and if not using PLP Preforms Serving the EHS guy wire . after the
> last cable clamp .
>
>
> Wayne W3EA
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> on behalf of Keith Dutson
> <kdutson@sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 5:43 PM
> To: k1ttt@arrl.net; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Turnbuckles with Rod Sides
>
> Same here. That 1/4 EHS works great.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David
> Robbins
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 4:01 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Turnbuckles with Rod Sides
>
>> When using turnbuckles, *don't forget to safety wire them*. I have never
> seen a ham safety wire a turnbuckle.
>
> My turnbuckles are all wired. I just take a cut off piece of guy wire and
> loop it through the bodies of all the turnbuckles and then through the live
> side eyes, that way neither side can turn.
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net:7373
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> (K8RI) on TT
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 20:39
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Turnbuckles with Rod Sides
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