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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] A dumb question
From: Larry Stowell <wa2fif@att.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 14:17:23 -0400
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Pete

I don't know what your landscape looks like. I started out with conduit

and saw that the cables sat in water all the time. My tower is about 25ft off of the

back of the garage a total of about 100ft from the entrance to the house

I install 10ft landscape timbers(6x6) vertical every 12ft and made a channel of

1x6 ceder and put the cables in this. I made some cross pieces so it look like a pagoda.

looks good as I followed the "flower garden.

Larry K1ZW


On 8/29/2017 10:33 AM, Bob Shohet, KQ2M wrote:

Hi Pete,

It depends on many things depending on your situation:

1) What are you attempting to protect your cable from?  Lawn mowers?  
Lightning?  Someone digging into them?  etc.

2) Type of cable and type of jacket  (and how hot/cold/snowy/icy does it get at 
your qth?)

I use buryflex coax and CQ304 and CQ302 rotator cable.  I have had them laying 
on the ground for almost 20 years with no discernable physical deterioration.  
If I put them below ground I would have to deal with the acidic soil, critters, 
pools of groundwater, etc.  Of course these issues would be mitigated by using 
gravel, sand, conduit, etc.  I like keeping it simple.  I have fewer critter 
problems and no water/soil issues with laying the cables on the ground.  
Nothing likes to nest directly on top of the cables where they are exposed to 
the elements.  Put them in a protected environment below soil however and then 
I am sure the critters would be more interested.

But for anything aboveground, the cable jackets better be physically tough and uv 
resistant or else they won’t last more than a few years at best.

3) Convenience and aesthetics...

It is a real PITA to have to move cables around every time that I mow, and even more of a PITA when 
I hit one of them with a mower.  BUT, where I have dug a 4” trench only a few inches wide and 
laid the cables in the uncovered trench, I don’t have to move them anymore, I don’t 
have to worry about the mower blades cutting them or hitting the sides of the narrow trench, and, if 
I need to move or replace them, I just pick them up and they are moved in a few seconds.

I have had no trouble with the elements or even snow/ice or standing water 
which is rapidly absorbed by the ground.

This also solves the issues of trenching and how deep is deep enough?

Decide on your answers to 1, 2 and 3 and then you may not even need to think 
about your questions.  If you still want to bury your cables, then 1, 2 and 3 
will determine the answer to your questions.

73 & GL!

Bob  KQ2M

From: N4ZR
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 9:28 PM
To: TowerTalk
Subject: [TowerTalk] A dumb question

After all this time I'm contemplating my first direct buried run of
coax.  Hence this qwuestion - how deep is deep enough?  DoI need to get
below the frost line?


--
73 Larry K1ZW

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