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To: StellarCAT <rxdesign@ssvecnet.com>, towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Legs of a 60' piece of tower being dragged while being lifted
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:35:40 -0700
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I sent Steve K8LX a photo and he now understands the problem. Unless you have a ring at the bottom end of a section what you are doing should be fine.

Grant KZ1W

On 10/18/2016 4:29 AM, StellarCAT wrote:
Hi Grant,

Indeed it was about one ring - and that ring is near the top (48' level of a 60' stick) ...and determining the COG isn't that difficult at all using sum of moments. It should be pretty straight forward. Assuming he booms out as he lifts to keep it on a radius, which is the key, there will always be a force at the end pushing it down in to the ground so again assuming he booms out as he lifts on a radius it should stay planted. Not that difficult I'd guess for an experienced operator. I've seen them place something within an inch of where you need it at a distance of 100' from where they sit ... that stated I will try to get something under the legs as it will more than likely get dragged at least a little.

Gary
K9RX


-----Original Message----- From: Grant Saviers
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 10:39 PM
To: Steve Maki ; towertalk
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Legs of a 60' piece of tower being dragged while being lifted

Since my largest tower went up with a commercial tower company who
builds 400' plus towers, and who required the base be managed, I would
say there are definite disagreements about this.   When lifting sections
with rings off supports, it can't be done safely and reliably, no matter
the skill of the crane op.  A plain stick of Rohn 25/45/55 is a
different animal.  Note the thread origin is about tower sections with
rings already mounted.

Grant KZ1W

On 10/17/2016 18:55 PM, Steve Maki wrote:
On 10/17/2016 11:53 AM, john@kk9a.com wrote:

The weight is irrelevant. A skilled crane operator can move the boom as
it is being lifted leaving the section on the ground as a pivot point.
Of  course if someone wishes to build a slide or use a loader to move
the base as it is being lifted that is perfectly fine, but I won't be
doing this.

John KK9A

I agree. A good operator has no problem at all with this scenario, as long as the crane is sized properly and can be positioned properly.

It's just a non-issue.

-Steve K8LX
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