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Re: [TowerTalk] Coax Losses on 160 and 75?

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Coax Losses on 160 and 75?
From: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:43:07 -0700
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On 8/12/16 11:53 AM, TexasRF--- via TowerTalk wrote:
And the results are intuitively obvious for even the most casual observer,
right?

The pdf mentions 1/4 and 1/8 wavelength multiples. Can we take it that
random lengths do not work for the concept?


They work, but the math gets more complex. the transmission line equations have a lot of terms that go to one or zero when you've got an exact multiple of pi/2. And pi/4 (1/8 wavelength) is often a nice special case (e.g. sin(pi/4) = cos(pi/4))

It's all hyperbolic sine and cosine (with complex numbers).

It is NOT generally suitable for hand calculation (or even pencil/paper/calculator).. but you can do it in a Excel spreadsheet, or use something like Octave, Matlab, Mathematica, etc.

Excel does do complex math, but you have to build the hyperbolic functions using IMEXP(x) (complex e^x)

imsinh(x) = improduct(0.5,imsub(imexp(x),imexp(improduct(-1,x))))
imcosh(x) = improduct(0.5,imsum( imexp(x),imexp(improduct(-1,x))))

if you're doing a lot of calculations with the same argument x, you can build some intermediate results that make life easier. exp(-x) = 1/exp(x), for instance. so imdiv(1,imexp(x)) is the same as imexp(improduct(-1,x))..




73,
Gerald K5GW



In a message dated 8/12/2016 1:41:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
steve@karinya.net writes:

http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/wet_ll/tl_formulas.pdf

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