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Re: [TowerTalk] Reusing guy lines

To: Ro Grrr <rogrrr@hotmail.com>, "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Reusing guy lines
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:26:58 -0700
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Might work. Might fail. Who knows when it will be so far off the manufacturers recommendations?

Do you have a tension test stand to try this out? Or rent a half hour at a test stand facility to measure the failure tension of 2 or 3 samples. Then you will have some data.

Otherwise, guy grips not removed are guy ends that are fine to re-use, so with those as one end, use wire clamps on the other end of the EHS piece.

I went through a long and thorough project to re-use 1800' of 25k# old style Phillystran. My Spelter socket termination was proven on my own 10k# capacity test stand and then on a 100k# commercial one. My termination proved as strong as the other 25k# rated components. (see Nov/Dec 2014 NCJ for an article I wrote about this)

Would I do it again? NO! The time invested was excessive, and the cost savings in the end was small, even though it was an entertaining and educational engineering/science project. Use new guy grips, they are cheap, reliable and far superior to wire clamps.

Grant KZ1W

On 6/13/2016 17:18 PM, Ro Grrr wrote:
Several of you advise against reusing Big Grips, and while I can understand your 
trepidation bcuz of the loss of the 'sand' in the fixture, and maybe their 'gripping 
form', my thoughts are simple.I have a large tower to put up (150' R55) and have 
plenty of 3/16 and 1/4" guy to support it. Said guys have grips on them and I 
plan to reuse the grips. However, when I do, I will secure them with the same wire 
clamps many of you use WITHOUT grips - bend the guy back thru the thimble and secure 
it with clamps.  So why can I not use clamps ON the grips to assure nothing will 
move/slip ?!?
73RoGrrraka RogerKC8HZ

                                        
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