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From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Mike Ryan
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 4:56 PM
To: Bill
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: Vertical Antennas near salt-water
There has been a ton of talk on this subject. I myself live on a salt
water
canal in Florida and have tried various vertical antennas over the salt
water, aside it, next to it, etc. There is so much MISINFORMATION and
downright speculation based on wrong assumptions, guesswork, and the
like.
Someone did a great article on the subject who was in fact a contester.
(Should that be spelled contestor, or contestee? ..you decide) At any
rate,
if you read article which can be opened from the link I have attached,
play
close attention to the paragraph that reads
" ... often incorrect assumptions about verticals: ". This is
enlightening
but the information is based on success or failure in the field and not
supposition which in my OPINION counts for something! -Mike
Subject: verticals
http://www.k2kw.com/verticals/learning.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 2:55 PM
To: Towertalk Mailing List
Cc: Chuck Dietz
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: Vertical Antennas near salt-water
My HF2V and Butternut 6 BTV are both attached to metal posts at my sea
wall. Both posts go into the salt water. They work at 1:1 SWR with no
radials. I do have some in the water but always wonder why? Hi...
They both perform very well and load on all bands.
Bill W2CQ
On 2/3/2016 2:30 PM, Chuck Dietz wrote:
I had a vertical for 160 on a small peninsula in salt water. I ran the
radials into salt water in 4 directions and pushed aluminum tubing
pieces
into the bottom in the salt water with the end of the radials clamped
to
them. Awesome antenna on transmit. Fair on receive. Just need enough
radial
length to get to the salt water.
Chuck W5PR
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016, Gary K9GS <garyk9gs@wi.rr.com> wrote:
I had an interesting discussion with a friend over the weekend and
wanted
to get some input from the TowerTalk community.
Imagine a 1/4 wavelength wire hanging down from a tree with the
bottom
end
attached to a post set into the salt water. The antenna wire would
be 3
or
4 feet above the water. What should be done with the
radial/counterpoise
wires? Should those wires go into the water?
Or imagine a similar hanging wire that has the bottom end attached to
the
top of a seawall. Again, the bottom of the antenna would be 3-4 feet
above
the water. Should the radials run on the ground parallel to the
seawall
or
run into the water?
A third situation would be a vertical antenna mounted at the end of a
pier. Run the radials back toward shore along the pier or run all of
the
radials into the water?
Finally, if the radials are in the water does it make any difference
if
the wire is insulated or not?
--
73,
Gary K9GS
Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org
Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com
CW Ops #1032 http://www.cwops.org
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