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Re: [TowerTalk] Klm 40m-1

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Klm 40m-1
From: Joseph Feustle <jafeustle@outlook.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:01:53 -0500
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Before moving to my current location twenty-eight years ago, I put two KLM-40-m dipoles on a sixteen-foot boom, built a feed-point match like the Hy-Gain (?) 2-el forty of the time, and put it 10 feet below my tribander at 45 feet. Kicked butt. No room for it here but I do survive with a Hy-Tower. The 2-el forty now resides in my garage along with a large Force-12 multi-el. Next time I move..., but do they work under ground?

Ah, point and shoot on 40 was fun.

73,
Joe Feustle, N8JF

On 1/28/2016 1:27 PM, Don W7WLL wrote:
Has been interesting to read the posts on this old antenna and the various comments on how well or not they have worked for those who had or have one.

I also have one. It is assembled, setting on some sawhorses out by the tower and ready for remount with a TH7DX and A3WS on my HG-70HD tower. My initial plan, after I get the rotator issue I have solved, is to lower the A3WS a couple of feet and put the dipole at mast top, above the A3WS.

Mine must be pre-40M-1 as all the literature that came with it just calls it a KLM 7.2-1 DIPOLE ANTENNA.

When previously mounted in Portland on a TriEx WT-51, I never used a truss nor do the instructions call for any. Even with the higher winds we see here on the OR coast where we moved some years back, after considering all the other two beams have gone through, I don't plan to truss it (the TH7DX of course is trussed).

This is an interesting rotatable dipole design but does have a fairly limited bandwidth. My recollection, for the settings I had, was that it was close to 1:1 at the desired 7125 freq setting and ramped up to about 2:1 at 7050 and 7200. Without a tuner it performed OK over the whole band but at a lot higher SWR. It didn't perform any better than a regular dipole except for the ability to rotate and maximize signals.

I don't know what the later 40M-1 manuals said, but mine even discusses using the dipole vertically off a 20M or other beam, going to far as to state that if mounted vertically with 'proper' spacing from the tower that one might even get a little gain and F/B!!! Never heard of anyone trying it and I remain dubious.

KLM also claimed that because of the 'specially designed linear loading' that it should not cause any interaction with a 20M beam and could even be mounted horizontally on its boom!!! I never heard of anyone doing this either, but I have considered mounting it to the mast below the TH7DX parallel with the elements (not the boom) just to see what the results would be !!

The instructions also give some suggestions for other configured uses of the element halves.

Along with my build and install instructions is a page which tells how to convert another 7.2-1 dipole and turn the two into a 2-el 40M beam. The sheet also provides instructions for getting the antenna to operate in the 8.1 to 8.7 MHz area (say what????)

After KLM moved from CA to WA I assume that changed the nomenclature to 40M-1 (?). I know they offered conversion kits in '96 (I have a KLM retail price list) at roughly $300/element to create a 2, 3 or 4 el 40M beam using the original dipole. I also have a copy of a dimensions sheet (with VSWR charts) and a list of parts for creating a 2 el. I don't know if was produced by KLM, but suspect so.

I looked for another KLM 40M rotatable dipole quite a while back, with the thought then of building a 2-el, but never found one and dropped the effort from my bucket list.

So, has anyone with one of these tried the 'different' mounting methods KLM suggests and if so how did it turn out???

Don W7WLL



-----Original Message----- From: Arnie Pfingst
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:37 AM
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Subject: [TowerTalk] Klm 40m-1



I have a chance to buy a klm 40m1 rotatable dipole. The fella said its on the ground. He said he "refurbished it" he has some paperwork for it and a 5kw balun with it. My questions are, does this antenna need a truss support and how do I put one on, was this antenna really anything to write home about. How does it compare to say... the cushcraft d40?Arnie
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