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Re: [TowerTalk] copper or galvanized ground rods in red SC clay

To: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] copper or galvanized ground rods in red SC clay
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 11:36:03 -0800
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Agree that RF design is the key AND low resistance is good. Of course there are exceptions, but perhaps not common among ham installations. I climbed several mountains in ME, noting the lightning "ground" on the top of one with a mostly bare granite summit. There were no ground rods I could find, but there were a lot of cables in a mesh configuration over a half acre or so of granite. I doubt there was a DC ground resistance anywhere near to ten ohms. The mesh was the best they could do for lightning strike dissipation. Probably would have a great corona show in a strike, but who would want to be there to see it?
Google earth shows a new tower on that summit, Boundary Bald Mt, ME.  It 
would be interesting to know the grounding system design. What is there 
had to arrive by helicopter.  One group climb I did on that summit had 
some folks arrive by JetRanger so I know there is a flat enough spot to 
very carefully land a 206.
Grant KZ1W

On 1/10/2016 10:48 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On Sun,1/10/2016 10:26 AM, Grant Saviers wrote:
"The resistance of the grounding electrode system is only a general measure of merit. Proper design and installation of the grounding electrode system, installation of ground rings, ground rods, radial grounding conductors, and the bonding of systems and equipment, is as important as the resistance to earth."
This the most relevant statement in the several you have quoted. Think 
about it -- many (most?) VHF/UHF communications facilities are located 
on mountaintops, where the "soil" is largely rocky/sandy. Heroic 
efforts are required to attain even a modestly low resistance to earth.
At the height of the telecom bust, a colleague bought two 
decommissioned AT&T Long Lines sites on mountaintops, and I had a 
station in one of them for a while. I had the opportunity to study 
AT&T's drawings for the building and for the grounding. Every detail 
was noted; there are many earth electrodes, and there is extensive 
bonding both inside and outside the building. This particular site is 
on a 3,000 ft peak in NorCal, with a 2-story building that is 120 ft x 
60 ft and a 150 ft tower that is 32 ft x 32 ft at the base and 24 ft 
square at the top. There's a photo on the W6BX qrz.com page, which I 
shot from a wooden fire observation tower about one hundred feet 
higher at the actual peak.
73, Jim K9YC
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