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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] cell phone antenna on ham tower?
From: "J. Hunt via TowerTalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: "J. Hunt" <ki5dq@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 07:18:01 -0700
List-post: <towertalk@contesting.com">mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Years ago I was approached by a ISP to place a wireless node on my 118' tower - 
the answer was NO. 

The reasons were covered well by:  W2RU and K9YC.

Please keep your ham radio tower Private, no Commercial use at all.


Cheers,
James
ki5dq
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On Thu, 10/29/15, Gene Smar <ersmar@verizon.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] cell phone antenna on ham tower?
 To: towertalk@n4zkf.com, k1ttt@arrl.net, towertalk@contesting.com
 Date: Thursday, October 29, 2015, 9:20 AM
 
 While I was with Bell Atlantic Video (FiOS predecessor) in mid-90s, we did the 
balloon thing for our planned satellite headend facility's parabolic antenna. 
The thing is, the balloon never floated straight up in the air; the breeze 
always pushed it aside so the neighbors
 never got to see the balloon at full height. We didn't build the facility 
after all.
 
 
 73 de
 Gene Smar AD3F
 
 
 
 
 On 10/28/15, n4zkf wrote:
 
 Been in this business 17 years and that is a new one on me.
 You learn something every day.
 
 73 Dave n4zkf
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On 10/28/15 7:51 AM, "David Robbins" k1ttt@verizon.net> wrote:
 
 >flying a balloon at the height of a proposed tower or windmill so
 >neighbors can see how much it will affect their scenic views is a common 
 >requirement in this area for commercial stuff.
 >usually required for so many days some time before the public hearings.
 >
 >
 >Oct 28, 2015 06:19:03 AM, towertalk@n4zkf.com wrote:
 >
 >I am in this business. This is what I do. Gene and Bud are correct.
 >(although the balloon gets me?) Also don't forget the taxes are going up.
 >
 >
 >73 Dave n4zkf
 >e-mail: n4zkf@n4zkf.com
 >web: http://www.n4zkf.com
 >CC-Cluster node: 145.07 Mhz. or telnet://ccc.n4zkf.com:7373
 >N4ZKF/R 147.375 Mhz. Tone 103.5
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >On 10/27/15 7:12 PM, "Gene Smar" wrote:
 >
 >>Donna:
 >>
 >> On the other side (the carrier's) of the coin, they'll probably want 
 >> 24-hour access and a commercial power source as
 heavy as, or heavier than, your home's, plus a BAG (.... Generator.) Your 
insurance agent may want an increased premium for the commercial operation on 
your property. 
 >>
 >> I've driven past cell towers on private property around here (DC area) but 
 >> they were on large farms away from population centers.
 >>
 >> Caveat Amateur.
 >>
 >>
 >>73/88 de
 >>Gene Smar AD3F
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>-----Original Message-----
 >>From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
 >>W2RU - Bud Hippisley
 >>Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 6:42 PM
 >>To: tower 
 >>Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] cell phone antenna on ham tower?
 >>
 >>Donna ?
 >>
 >>Please let me expand on Jim??s very important comment.
 >>
 >>I spent six+ years looking into antenna zoning restrictions in my search for 
 >>a new QTH. In general ? and this may not be true
 in your locality  but it was / is true in by far the majority of  
municipalities I investigated ? amateur radio towers may be preferentially 
treated only as long as there is no commercial use co-located on the  tower.
 >>
 >>Once there is a commercial application on your tower, it becomes subject to 
 >>what are usually far more restrictive paragraphs
 in the local zoning ordinance. You may, for instance, be required to  have 
public hearings when you weren??t required to for a ham tower. You may have to 
fly a brightly marked balloon, where previously you weren??t. And so on. And it 
gets worse ? and worse ? and worse.
 >>
 >>In short, you most likely will lose any protections you might think you have 
 >>under PRB-1.
 >>
 >>Unless you live in a municipality that has no zoning at all ? and no 
 >>restrictions at all on cell towers ? I don??t even
 recommend ??proceed[ing] with caution?? ? I recommend not proceeding at all!
 >>
 >>Bud, W2RU
 >>
 >>
 >>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 4:41 47PM, Jim Brown
 >>>wrote:
 >>> 
 >>> On Tue,10/27/2015 1:02 PM, ag6v@whidbey.com wrote:
 >>>> I'm sure some of you have an opinion/experience with cell phone antennas
 >>> 
 >>> No experience, but caution -- beware of zoning issues that apply to 
 >>> commercial installations as opposed to ham towers.
 >>> 
 >>> 73, Jim K9YC
 >>
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