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Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: Phillystran

To: Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l@comcast.net>, GMuller885@aol.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: Phillystran
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 20:35:58 -0700
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I strongly advise against saddle clamps. The problem is creep of the plastic jacket causes the clamp force to decay with time. Until the clamp completely cuts through the jacket the clamp force decays. At room temperature it took about 3 weeks and at least 4 tightenings to get the saddle to cut through the jacket. I used a torque wrench to set the tightening force and measured the residual torque at a late time each cycle. I built a tension tester and verified saddle terminations will slip well below the breaking strength of the Philly. Even after 121 days and 4 tightening cycles the saddle clamp torque values indicated continuing creep and reduced termination strength. I was unable to achieve more than 30% of the break strength of the Philly. (25000# Philly and 7000# load for slippage).

Later I tested the proper terminations for this Philly (Spelter sockets with epoxy) on a commercial 100,000# tension test stand and the guy failed at 28000# tension and not the termination. See NCJ Nov-Dec 2014 for my article.

I've seen bent booms as a result of using saddle clamps. I also found them loose on my steppIR 4L after a year on the 1200 size so will never use it again.

Phillystran says use grips on all 2100 and larger.  Follow the directions!

Grant KZ1W

On 10/21/2015 13:06 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
Mostly what compresses is the jacket. No strength is lost. My SteppIR uses 
Phillystran (as a bridle) with small saddle clamps. The PS is very flat in the 
clamps.
73, Mike NF4L


On Oct 21, 2015, at 3:46 PM, GMuller885--- via TowerTalk 
<towertalk@contesting.com> wrote:

All:
      Thank all of you for the input.    Based on all the input my guys and
stays are of Phillystran 6mm dia 2100 lbs  break strength. I am using guy
line clamp kits, three to a  connection.  The only question left is that if
the Guy cliompress  the Phillystran how much strength is lost if any?

Gerald Muller K9GEM
GMuller885@aol.com
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