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Subject: [TowerTalk] Expected VSWR of antenna near the ground
From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:27:11 -0700
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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 18:16:17 -0700
From: "Doug Ronald" <doug@dougronald.com>
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Subject: [TowerTalk] Expected VSWR of antenna near the ground

I have assembled my 19 element LPDA with the front 12 elements about 3 feet
off the ground and parallel to the ground. The back elements are laying on
the ground, but electrically connected in the usual LPDA way. Today, as a
check before I erect it, I swept with a VNA, the antenna from 1 MHz through
32 MHz. The VSWR is horrible! It has peaks and deep dips at the low end, and
then at 14 MHz or so, rises to over 5:1 and stays there.  Now I didn't
expect even 2:1 over the range, but I expected the VSWR on the high end to
be at least reasonable, because the front shorter elements are off the
ground.

 

Anyone care to weigh in with an opinion? I hoping an expert says this is
perfectly normal for an antenna just a few feet off the ground. If not, I'm
kind 'a stuck as I have checked all the connections with an ohm meter, and
they are all okay.

 

Thanks,

W6DSR

###  What is the make and model of the LPDA ?     Or is it HB ? 
What freqs does the LPDA cover ??   Is it   14-30 mhz.... or 10-30 mhz,
or  7-30 mhz ??    How LONG is the boom ?  

##  I assume  you mean  low freq end of boom is on the ground, while the other 
end of
boom is aprx 3 ft above the lawn ??   That proves nothing.  If far end of boom 
is 3 ft above
ground, all the inboard eles will be LESS than 3 ft above ground.  IE:  0-3 ft. 
   Sure,  You could point
it  straight up to the sky, with low freq end of boom aprx 1-3 ft above the 
lawn..and also
temp guying the boom with non conductive  guy rope..pita. 

##  with my 15m yagi  sitting 3 ft above ground on wooden sawhorses, it 
resonates way too 
low.   Typ 20/17/15/12/10m  yagi will shift a huge amount higher in freq when 
raised up   from
3’...to  20’. 

##  If it’s a commercial built LPDA, just install it to its final height on 
tower.   Or at least temp raise
it to  10-15 ft, with boom parallel to ground.  If its still screwed  up, you 
may well have a problem
with the assy  /  construction process. 

Jim   VE7RF  
    


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