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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Worm Gears
From: k2cb@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 03:26:48 +0000 (UTC)
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For those of us who own US Tower models with the Hub City boxes - how often 
should we be changing the lubricant?   I see no mention or concern whatsoever 
from US Tower on the matter. My tower is now approaching 5 years in service, so 
it is in the back of my mind.......... 
Eric 
K2CB 
  

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   1. Re: Worm Gears (Richard (Rick) Karlquist) 
   2. Re: Worm Gears (Robert Harmon) 
   3. FW:  Worm Gears (Matt) 
   4. Fwd:  Fwd:  Antenna near chimney - bad idea? (Hans Hammarquist) 
   5. Re: Worm Gears (Robert Harmon) 
   6. Fwd:  Fwd:  Fwd:  Antenna near chimney - bad idea? 
      (Hans Hammarquist) 


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Message: 1 
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2015 14:52:00 -0700 
From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com> 
To: Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net>, TowerTalk@contesting.com 
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Worm Gears 
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On 6/30/2015 3:52 PM, Robert Harmon wrote: 
> I dont want sabotage our worm gear discussion but wanted to throw in a 
> question about gear lube for a worm gear box.    I am going to change the 
> gear oil in my US tower 
> box.  It is a Hub City worm gear.  Thinking of using a Mobil 1 Synthetic gear 
> lube,  a PAG type. 
> Dont ask me what the PAG means but Hub City recomends a PAG synthetic.  Any 
> one used a 
> synthetic ? 
> 
> Bob 
> K6UJ 
> 

Mobil 1 LS comes in 75W90 and 75W140.  Which is correct 
for Hub City?  Is 1 quart enough for a gear box? 

Rick N6RK 


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Message: 2 
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 15:51:08 -0700 
From: Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net> 
To: TowerTalk@contesting.com 
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Worm Gears 
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Hi Rick, 

It needs to be a specific synthetic gear lube. 
I called Hub City and they recommend their 460 PAG for worm gears. 
They said that the Mobil 1 Glycol 460 is what they are using. 
My Hub City worm gear box takes over a quart so I am ordering 2 quarts. 
BTW,  they should not be filled to the top.  About 30 % air space should be 
left for thermal expansion. 
Heres some Hub City info on worm gear lubes, (below) 
and below that the specs on the Mobil 1 460 they are talking about. 
I am ordering mine on line, not stocked anywhere locally. 


Hub City worm gear lube instruction sheet 
http://www.hubcityinc.com/documents/LI-WG-S-D-071814.pdf 
<http://www.hubcityinc.com/documents/LI-WG-S-D-071814.pdf> 


Their recommended Mobil 1 synthetic lube 
http://www.wardieh.com/admin/document/(2786f39d8352b23e50cf17c424e017c5).pdf 
<http://www.wardieh.com/admin/document/(2786f39d8352b23e50cf17c424e017c5).pdf> 


Bob 
K6UJ 







> On Jul 1, 2015, at 2:52 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist <richard@karlquist.com> 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/30/2015 3:52 PM, Robert Harmon wrote: 
>> I dont want sabotage our worm gear discussion but wanted to throw in a 
>> question about gear lube for a worm gear box.    I am going to change the 
>> gear oil in my US tower 
>> box.  It is a Hub City worm gear.  Thinking of using a Mobil 1 Synthetic 
>> gear lube,  a PAG type. 
>> Dont ask me what the PAG means but Hub City recomends a PAG synthetic.  Any 
>> one used a 
>> synthetic ? 
>> 
>> Bob 
>> K6UJ 
>> 
> 
> Mobil 1 LS comes in 75W90 and 75W140.  Which is correct 
> for Hub City?  Is 1 quart enough for a gear box? 
> 
> Rick N6RK 
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Message: 3 
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 18:06:50 -0500 
From: "Matt" <maflukey@gmail.com> 
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Subject: [TowerTalk] FW:  Worm Gears 
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Hi Rick, 

Viscosity of ISO 460 converts to SAE 140, 75W140. 

Matt 
KM5VI 

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Richard (Rick) Karlquist 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 4:52 PM 
To: Robert Harmon; TowerTalk@contesting.com 
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Worm Gears 



On 6/30/2015 3:52 PM, Robert Harmon wrote: 
> I dont want sabotage our worm gear discussion but wanted to throw in a 
> question about gear lube for a worm gear box.    I am going to change the 
gear oil in my US tower 
> box.  It is a Hub City worm gear.  Thinking of using a Mobil 1 Synthetic 
gear lube,  a PAG type. 
> Dont ask me what the PAG means but Hub City recomends a PAG synthetic.   
> Any one used a synthetic ? 
> 
> Bob 
> K6UJ 
> 

Mobil 1 LS comes in 75W90 and 75W140.  Which is correct for Hub City?  Is 1 
quart enough for a gear box? 

Rick N6RK 
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Message: 4 
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 20:07:47 -0400 
From: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com> 
To: towertalk@contesting.com 
Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd:  Fwd:  Antenna near chimney - bad idea? 
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I have no idea what is generated burning store-bought duraflame fire logs. I 
know that, brunt "wrong" generate a lot of chemical compounds, creosote being 
one of them. I still wouldn't recommend putting anything near a chimney. I know 
what my TV antenna looked like after a few years next to (on top) of my 
chimney. Not a pretty picture. 


Hans - N2JFS 



-----Original Message----- 
From: John Keating <john.keating@sbcglobal.net> 
To: towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com> 
Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 10:46 pm 
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd:  Antenna near chimney - bad idea? 


Suppose the only thing burned are those store-bought duraflame fire logs? 

John KK6PLG 


Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 15:21:00 -0400 

From: Hans 
Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com> 

To: towertalk@contesting.com 

Subject: 
[TowerTalk] Fwd:  Antenna near chimney - bad idea? 

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The biggest problem is corrosion. Any oil burner 
generate a small, but 
significant amount of acid that will corrode your tower, 
antenna, rotor, 
etc. faster than away from the chimney. I have not seen any 
problems with 
soot. 

Hans - N2JFS 

  

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Subject:               [TowerTalk] Antenna 
near 

chimney - bad idea? 

From:    John Keating 
<john.keating@sbcglobal.net> 

Date:     Mon, 

29 Jun 2015 10:01:47 -0700 




  

I have limited options for placing my 40' tower and tribander at my 
QTH. 

One of 

them is next to the 2 story house very near the 33' chimney. 
Am wondering if 
anyone has experience...soot affecting rotor or antenna 
parts? 




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Message: 5 
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 18:55:23 -0700 
From: Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net> 
To: towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com> 
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Worm Gears 
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Matt, 

The viscosity is only part of the equation. 
I might be a comparable viscosity but there are many other ingredients 
that are formulated into the lubricants for specific applications. 
The gear lube we are discussing is a synthetic lube specifically formulated for 
worm gears. 

Bob 
K6UJ 



> On Jul 1, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Matt <maflukey@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> Hi Rick, 
> 
> Viscosity of ISO 460 converts to SAE 140, 75W140. 
> 
> Matt 
> KM5VI 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard (Rick) Karlquist 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 4:52 PM 
> To: Robert Harmon; TowerTalk@contesting.com 
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Worm Gears 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/30/2015 3:52 PM, Robert Harmon wrote: 
>> I dont want sabotage our worm gear discussion but wanted to throw in a 
>> question about gear lube for a worm gear box.    I am going to change the 
> gear oil in my US tower 
>> box.  It is a Hub City worm gear.  Thinking of using a Mobil 1 Synthetic 
> gear lube,  a PAG type. 
>> Dont ask me what the PAG means but Hub City recomends a PAG synthetic.   
>> Any one used a synthetic ? 
>> 
>> Bob 
>> K6UJ 
>> 
> 
> Mobil 1 LS comes in 75W90 and 75W140.  Which is correct for Hub City?  Is 1 
> quart enough for a gear box? 
> 
> Rick N6RK 
> _______________________________________________ 
> 
> 
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Message: 6 
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 22:56:03 -0400 
From: Hans Hammarquist <hanslg@aol.com> 
To: towertalk@contesting.com 
Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd:  Fwd:  Fwd:  Antenna near chimney - bad 
        idea? 
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Think about it, that chimney is connected to a wood burning stow. I guess wood 
gives off acid as well. 


Hans - N2JFS 



-----Original Message----- 
From: Hans Hammarquist via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com> 
To: towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com> 
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2015 9:47 pm 
Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd:  Fwd:  Antenna near chimney - bad idea? 


I have no idea what is generated burning store-bought duraflame fire logs. I 
know that, brunt "wrong" generate a lot of chemical compounds, creosote being 
one of them. I still wouldn't recommend putting anything near a chimney. I know 
what my TV antenna looked like after a few years next to (on top) of my 
chimney. 
Not a pretty picture. 


Hans - N2JFS 



-----Original Message----- 
From: 
John Keating <john.keating@sbcglobal.net> 
To: towertalk 
<towertalk@contesting.com> 
Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 10:46 pm 
Subject: Re: 
[TowerTalk] Fwd:  Antenna near chimney - bad idea? 


Suppose the only thing 
burned are those store-bought duraflame fire logs? 

John KK6PLG 


Date: 
Tue, 30 Jun 2015 15:21:00 -0400 

From: Hans 
Hammarquist 
<hanslg@aol.com> 

To: towertalk@contesting.com 

Subject: 
[TowerTalk] Fwd: 
Antenna near chimney - bad 
idea? 

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<14e45ea4da6-38c1-2b2a1@webprd-m47.mail.aol.com> 

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charset=utf-8 


The biggest problem is corrosion. Any oil 
burner 
generate a small, but 
significant amount of acid that will corrode your 
tower, 
antenna, rotor, 
etc. faster than away from the chimney. I have not seen 
any 
problems with 
soot. 

Hans - N2JFS 

  

To:         

<towertalk@contesting.com> 

Subject:               [TowerTalk] 
Antenna 
near 

chimney - bad idea? 

From:    John 
Keating 
<john.keating@sbcglobal.net> 

Date:     Mon, 

29 Jun 2015 10:01:47 
-0700 




  

I have limited options for placing my 40' tower and 
tribander at my 
QTH. 

One of 

them is next to the 2 story house very near 
the 33' chimney. 
Am wondering if 
anyone has experience...soot affecting rotor 
or 
antenna 
parts? 




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