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Re: [TowerTalk] Rotator Lightning Protection

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rotator Lightning Protection
From: "Paul Christensen" <w9ac@arrl.net>
Date: Sat, 16 May 2015 06:56:19 -0400
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Roger,

Tnx for the MOV info. I'm also considering the addition of a second vacuum relay inside the M2 prop pitch controller. That would actually be the easiest solution and not be subject to an accidental chassis to circuit ground path during a strike event if I were to do as earlier discussed (i.e., isolate circuit from chassis ground). So, with two vacuum relays: (1) the MOSFET is protected by the existing vacuum relay; and (2) the second vacuum relay would apply +48V to the winding only during the time that the rotator turn is engaged. In fact, the two vacuum relay coils can be paralleled from the same source.
Tnx to all who provided ideas.

Paul, W9AC


On May 15, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Roger (K8RI) on TT <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net> wrote:
Having worked with literally thousands of MOV,s from little ones up to 
50,000 Joul ratings, They will typically fail shorted, BUT I have seen 
many fail open.  It depends on the power contained in the "final spike" 
that causes them to fail.  From power line spikes and nearby lightening 
strikes the ODDS ARE it/they will fail shorted.  If enough power/energy is 
contained in that final spike at failure time, it becomes likely they will 
fail open and  that anything on that line will fail as well.
Based on experience, you can expect the MOV to fail shorted and it will 
PROBABLY  protect any electronic device connected to it. That being the 
case, the prop pitch motor will PROBABLY need some sort of "fail safe" to 
prevent over rotation.
That's a lot of probables, but it's unfortunately a fact of life, leaving 
you playing the odds which favor the MOV failing shorted, but with no 
guarantee it will do so.   If the MOV works as we all hope, then you will 
need some sort of "fail safe"
Since the big ground system was installed my tower has been hit at least 7 
times that can be verified with nothing disconnected and NO MOVs in the 
rotator lines.  No damage was seen.
I can not say the same for my computers and network.  A nearby strike did 
nothing to either station, but it sure cost me a lot in network and 
computer damage.  The CAT-5 lines go through protection at the UPS for 
each computer.  The connectors were melted and the wire contacts welded 
together at one UPS.  The router, 8 port switch and most NICs were shot!
So, lightening and MOVs are a crap shoot.  They will protect you from the 
smaller stuff, but cause other problems. They are unlikely to protect you 
from the larger stuff.
In the end, I'd use them, plan on the MOVs failed as a short, and hope for 
the best  There is no guarantee, but you have tilted the odds in your 
favor..
73

Roger  (K8RI)
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