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Re: [TowerTalk] Yagi gain vs rotary dipole.

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Yagi gain vs rotary dipole.
From: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:23:06 -0800
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On 11/25/14, 12:18 PM, Doug Turnbull wrote:


      I know boom length is important but are you saying that given a long
enough boom that a three element mono-band Yagi would outperform a six
element Monobander on a fifty foot boom.    The additional elements surely
do add some forward gain - some.    I know it may only be one to three dB
and hard to recognize in the QSB.

Spacing elements farther than a half wavelength apart isn't likely to buy you much. Even 1/4 lambda is about as far as you want to go. In particular, for a Yagi-Uda, which has only one element that is fed, you depend on the interelement coupling to get the current into the other elements, and when you start getting >1/2 lambda away, the coupling starts getting pretty small.

So a 50 foot boom (= 15 meters) for a 3 element 10 meter antenna isn't likely to be very useful: 7.5 meters is way more than 1/2 lambda.


The extra elements *might* add some gain, if they suppress a back or sidelobe. Superdirective arrays (which most yagis are) achieve their directivity by suppressing the back and side lobes more than by enhancing the forward lobe.


Note well, though, that I wrote directivity. Highly directive antennas often have a lot of stored energy in the antenna (= high Q.. Q is stored energy/radiated power) which in turn often means high currents, so you can have a lot of loss. You might be highly directive, but the gain is low.

For a lot of applications this is ok: you're more interested in suppressing interfering signals from the wrong direction than you are in enhancing signals from the right direction. Especially, since there's a limit on how much "enhancing" is possible.

The other thing multiple elements (potentially) can do is widen the bandwidth.

And, more elements give you more variables to adjust when optimizing: a 3 element yagi has only 5 parameters: the 3 element lengths and the 2 spacings. A 6 element yagi has 6 lengths and 5 spacings, so you've got twice as many things to adjust to develop that "optimum compromise".




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