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Subject: [TowerTalk] RTVs.
From: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 01:22:11 -0500
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RTVs and what are they. "Room Temperature Vulcanizing" (RTV) is a generic term for family of sealant compounds that self vulcanize at room temperature..

AFAIK Nearly all Silicone RTVs are so close in formula that they might be considered the same. I'm not familiar with all of them, but AFAIK the decision was made not to patent Silastic(TM) which is the original RTV. The gamble was made that it would not be reverse engineered until well after the patent would have run out.
DAP

It was (at the time) a very profitable decision as it is relatively easy to make and The formula was not figured out until long after the patents would have expired.

I said "at the time" because the patent procedure has change from first to produce to first to patent.

If you remember many RTVs suddenly turning up, (IIRC a couple of decades ago) that would be right after it was figured out. I believe that the Silastic(TM) RTV consumer line was sols when it became a low margin commodity. I may be wrong, but I believe DAP sell the DC line of RTVs along with the Latex versions. which are not from DC. As near as I can tell, DC still makes the RTVs and likely makes the consumer grades which others package and sell. Who does what gets a little confusing.

http://www.dowcorning.com/content/etronics/etronicsseal/etronics_aas_1ptov.asp

All have a shelf life because they use moisture to cure. The tube will leak moisture at a very slow rate so they last a few years. Once opened, the screw on top is not that great a seal so their life after opening is at most, a few months.

Keep moisture away and the stuff lasts a very long time. Thing is, the material has only been tested under what is considered "NORMAL STORAGE CONDITIONS" so the company is likely to say do not use beyond the expiration date. . I simply keep the tubes in a sealed Tupperware box/container/ "I think" the only requirement is that the container is moisture proof when closed.

I have used tubes that have been opened and resealed, 20 plus years after they were originally opened. I have opened tubes for the first time that were 30 years past their original expiration date (that had been kept in the Tupperware box) and the result is still performing as advertized.

You CAN most likely use the Silastic(TM) RTV on antennas out doors with no problems as long as it is not in an enclosed space like a plastic antenna matching enclosure.

I have noted that with long duration storage (Over 20 years), the non acetic RTVs "MAY have some of the water/alcohol like substance separate out. They still appear to work, but at that point, I pitched the tubes that had been opened. I've observed no such problem with the acetic versions.

I used to get it at "The /Company Store" for pennies on the dollar. I'd get a bunch, put it in a plastic box and put it away. I had a bunch of the high temp stuff, but gave all to nearby FBOs (Aircraft repair shops) It came in BIG tubes as well as the 10 oz size,\.

Note, there are now "Latex" RTVs which appear to work well. Note, these are water soluble until they have cured, so don't apply in the rain.

I hope this helps.

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73

Roger (K8RI)


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