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Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 142, Issue 22

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 142, Issue 22
From: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 01:50:24 -0400
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On 10/14/2014 2:09 PM, Donald Chester wrote:
Steve     K7LXC wrote:


        >I'm not an engineer  but I can't find any validity in this
statement. Bigger towers use the  pier-and-pin technique because it minimizes 
leg
stresses on big towers  with microwave dishes which are kind of a non-issue

Originally, tower manufacturers sold "dirt bases" and had instructions for planting a tower section directly in concrete. The base tower section extended all the way through the concrete so it could drain properly. I've not heard of these failing as the towers are designed to support a specif wind and weight load. Yes the pier pin base is better if properly installed. It's actually more difficult to properly guy a tower set directly in concrete, but not THAT much more difficult.

If not overloaded (a common ham practice) the tower should survive just fine set directly in concrete. It's just that a properly installed pier pin base subjects the tower to less torsional forces,


for your  typical amateur installation. There are tens of thousands of guyed
towers with  the bottom section buried in concrete and the incidence of that
failure mode is  non-existent in my experience.

I've seen a number of tower bases fail, but not because they were set in concrete. It was because they had poor drainage, did not go all the way through the concrete causing water to collect in the legs and freeze. "spider webs in the legs", or a base that let water collect on the concrete around the legs causing the legs to rust through where they entered the concrete.

73

Roger  (K8RI)

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