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To: "'Grant Saviers'" <grants2@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: tower insulators
From: "J. Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT" <W2TTT@ATT.NET>
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 16:47:41 -0000
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Grant,
So insulating a standard pier pin base is your suggestion?
How might I do that?  I'm thinking that sandwiching an insulator underneath
the base plate and isolating the pier pin from the base plate is the
approach you are suggesting.  Am I right?
Do you or other have some photos or diagrams?
73,
Gordon, W2TTT
201.314.6964


-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Grant
Saviers
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 3:13 PM
To: J. Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TowerTalk] [Bulk] Re: tower insulators

The max wind combined guy loads for a 100' tower can be around 4000#
downforce on the tower base (plus the tower weight) so something more than
1" delrin will be required between the legs.  That amount of force obviously
works ok with the tapered pier pin base, but the leg span of straight R25 or
larger will require some steel structure behind whatever insulator is used.
I think modifying a tapered pier pin base section bottom plate for an
insulator block of delrin/nylon would be easier/cheaper.

Grant KZ1W


On 9/1/2014 7:29 AM, J. Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT wrote:
> Bob, Steve et al,
>
> Any thoughts on what might be a good approach to insulating a Rohn 25 
> tower from the ground?
> I was thinking of a pin base in a lower slab of nylon or delrin 
> insulating material sandwiched with another upper slab of insulating 
> material  that has bolts into the tower legs.  These could be bolted
together at the corners.
> When I say, "slab" I am thinking about 0.5-1.0 inches in thickness.
>
> My concerns are that the might be stronger and possibly cheaper.  Any 
> thoughts?
>
> 73,
> Gordon, W2TTT
> 201.314.6964
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> Bob Naumann W5OV
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:33 AM
> To: Steve Maki
> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com; 'Bob Naumann W5OV'
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] tower insulators
>
> The insulators that you found through an obsolete link are no longer 
> available.
>
>
> Sorry!
>
> Bob W5OV
> Array Solutions
>
>
> On Fri, August 29, 2014 9:16 pm, Steve Maki wrote:
>> John,
>>
>>
>> Thinking about it, of course I've been thinking about it for a few 
>> years now :)
>>
>> Yes, I saw the Array Solutions solution, and WB0W's, both of which 
>> look viable. I only tried contacting them via their web page contact 
>> gadgets which aren't always monitored by online stores.
>>
>> I'll try a direct email, thanks.
>>
>>
>> -Steve K8LX
>>
>>
>> On 8/28/2014 9:45 PM, john@kk9a.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Are you getting back into contesting Steve?  What about these?
>>> http://www.arraysolutions.com/Products/towerinsulators.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> Try emailing W5OV, BonN@arraysolutions.com
>>>
>>> From:       Steve Maki <lists@oakcom.org>
>>> Date:       Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:24:33 -0400
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if there is a currently available commercial leg 
>>> insulator for Rohn 45 tower? I've seen reference to products from 
>>> Array Solutions and WB0W, but didn't get replies to my inquires, and 
>>> I'm guessing they were/are not big sellers.
>>>
>>> I can fab them myself from fiberglass rod and protect them with an 
>>> umbrella of some sort, but would rather save the time with an off 
>>> the shelf product.
>
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