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Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: hosting a commercial service on my tower

To: Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: hosting a commercial service on my tower
From: rayc <seeray96@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:13:56 -0500
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Sounds like a good opportunity, but it would be a good idea to discuss it
with
your insurance agent to maker sure your Homeowner policy would provide
coverage with a business use of your insured premises.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net
> wrote:

> Good for you, sounds like a good deal. A friend of mine is doing the same
> thing in rural north Texas. Just make sure EVERYTHING is spelled out
> completely in the contract and YOUR attorney has no issues with it.  My
> friend requested no monetary compensation, just communications connectivity
> similar to what you mentioned.
>
> Hope it works out well for you.
>
> 73,
>
> Patrick NJ5G
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Hans Hammarquist
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 11:20 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Fwd: hosting a commercial service on my tower
>
> There are attorneys specializing in this. They will be able to answer all
> you answers and also give you good advice what your contract should look
> like. There should, for example, be a paragraph of what would happen if the
> IP desert the site etc. I know that there are "standard" contract that can
> be used and maybe should be used for these things.
>
>
> Good luck,
>
>
> Hans - N2JFS
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Green WC1M <wc1m73@gmail.com>
> To: towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 21, 2014 7:57 pm
> Subject: [TowerTalk] hosting a commercial service on my tower
>
>
> Today a commercial wireless ISP approached me about placing a group of
> antennas on my tower and a "small" building at the base. In exchange, they
> offered free installation of a fiber optic cable down my 1100-foot driveway
> and free high-speed internet service (for comparison, Comcast quoted $3,500
> for the cable run and $50-$70 per month for service.) Right now we have 3
> mbps DSL and it's not adequate for our needs.
>
>
>
> The height and location of my tower are ideal for expanding the ISP's
> service into a new area. It's 115' of Rohn 55 with a small Force 12 6-el
> 10m
> monobander at the top of a five-foot mast (about 4 sq ft windload), a
> Cal-Av
> 2D-40A 2-el 40m beam (16 sq ft) at the bottom of the mast and just above
> the
> thrust bearing in the top plate, and  a 3-stack of 4-el SteppIRs on ring
> rotors at 34'/64'/96'. The SteppIRs are 10 sq feet each. All cables to the
> tower are direct-buried about 2-feet down and the run is about 225 feet
> with
> a nearly 90-degree turn.
>
>
>
> I have a bunch of questions about doing this, especially what terms I
> should
> require in the contract if I decide to do this. Here's what I have so far:
>
> 1.       What speed internet service will they provide to us? Are there any
> strings attached?
>
> 2.       Would a commercial use invalidate my tower permit?
>
> 3.       Would the added wind load be acceptable for my tower?
>
> 4.       Could there be RFI between our respective antennas?
>
> 5.       Will the ISP's antennas limit access to my antennas in any way?
>
> 6.       They have to install new conduit to the house and tower - What
> should I require them to do during/after?
>
> 7.       What's the size of the utility "building" or enclosure and how
> will
> it be constructed/installed?
>
> 8.       How much electricity will their equipment consume and who will pay
> for it?
>
> 9.       Do I have any liability for tree branches along the driveway
> taking
> out their fiber run?
>
> 10.   What happens if I want to sell the house? (i.e., Can the tower ever
> be
> removed?)
>
> 11.   Will they indemnify me if their climber gets injured or killed on my
> tower?
>
> 12.   Is free fiber installation and internet service fair compensation for
> the value they're getting?
>
>
>
> I realize most of these require a more research, and I'm not necessarily
> expecting answers from this group. But I could use some feedback on whether
> these are the right questions to ask and whether I've left out anything
> important.
>
>
>
> One thought I've had is whether this could be parlayed into a long-term
> solution for dealing with my tower when I get too old to climb it or have
> to
> move into the old-folks home (or worse..) I sometimes lay awake at night
> wondering what I'd do in those cases, or what my wife would do about the
> tower if something happened to me. I'm wondering if I could do a deal where
> the ISP would take over ownership and maintenance of the tower, including
> removing my antennas if and when I no longer need them. Of course, that
> would put a permanent potential blot on the value of our property, but if
> the ISP would require a perpetual agreement anyway, and I was willing to go
> along with that, it would be a good rider to have.
>
>
>
> I'd appreciate any comments, especially from anyone who has considered a
> similar proposal.
>
>
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
>
>
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