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Re: [TowerTalk] Driving ground rods

To: Alan Swinger <awswinger@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Driving ground rods
From: Wayne Kline <w3ea@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 14:52:05 -0700
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Ditto that,   Why buy the Cow when you can get the milk  for !   Rent   OH yeah 
that,s another issue . But you get my drift.

Wayne W3EA

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On Oct 15, 2013, at 2:15 PM, "Alan Swinger" <awswinger@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Equip rental companies, at least in Virginia, rent impact hammers and the 
> fitting for Grd Rods. I have gone this route on two occasions and drove 36 
> 8ft rods each time. Its less expensive than buying a hammer that you probably 
> won't use very often, but it will also accomplish the job and let you test a 
> particular brand befor you buy.
> Good luck,
> Alan K9MBQ
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>
>> Sent: Oct 15, 2013 4:29 PM
>> To: Richard Karlquist <richard@karlquist.com>, towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Driving ground rods
>> 
>> Rick, it seems there is no free lunch.  I read the specs on all three demo 
>> hammers you gave ID numbers for and although any of the three "might" work 
>> in some situations only a trial will tell.  Comparison to mine is difficult 
>> as I don???t have a ft-lb rating for mine only the blows per minute at 1100 
>> to 
>> 2100. Mine is rated at 16 amps.
>> 
>> It it were me and I were starting fresh I would buy the #68150 which is on 
>> sale now for $329.  I'd buy an extra chisel and convert it to a ground rod 
>> driver by cutting it off and adding a piece of tubing as previously 
>> mentioned. Then I'd try it in the toughest soil I had and see if it was 
>> acceptable.  If not, take it back and get the next size up as they have a 
>> 100% satisfaction guarantee.
>> 
>> One small downside is that the two candidates I mention use different size 
>> chisels, i.e. 28mm hex and 30mm hex.  I would do a trial fit of the 28mm in 
>> the tool intended to use 30mm tool as I suspect it would work and save you a 
>> little expense and hassle. Of course the HF folks may deny that but remember 
>> they aren't users, just low wage stock guys.
>> Interestingly the larger more powerful tool lists the smaller size tool 
>> shank. My tool size is 3/4 inch hex, a bit smaller than the ones available 
>> now and it is plenty sturdy driving many rods without wear or damage.
>> 
>> I also use mine to take out old concrete and even tried it for driving 
>> T-posts with mixed results. I can break/shape landscaping boulders.
>> 
>> Good luck to you whichever way you choose to go.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Patrick AF5CK
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Richard Karlquist
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 2:25 PM
>> To: towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Driving ground rods
>> 
>> On 2013-10-14 11:49, Patrick Greenlee wrote:
>>> If anyone is interested in buying a Harbor Freight (inexpensive) demo
>>> hammer don't buy the smallest one.  They don't carry the one I have
>>> anymore but they have a larger one and a smaller one.  I have seen
>>> both.  Don't get the smaller one.  Mine works pretty good and the
>> 
>> The HF web site shows:
>> 
>> Model 68147, 15 amps "vertical", $499 list
>> Model 68150, 11 amps "horizontal", $399 list
>> Model 68148, 10 amps "horizontal", $199 list
>> 
>> So which is the good and the bad?  What doesn't work with the bad one?
>> 
>> Rick N6RK
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