Rick,
It was my wrong assumption that crank ups were in the question. Guys on
the mast by the prior owner of your HDX5106 tower - very interesting!
I have a Trylon T200-80 on the ground which is rated 16 sq ft at 70mph
then 2 sq ft at 85 mph. Since a (85/70)^2 more wind force (1.5x) causes
a 8x reduction in load capacity, my guesstimate is there is so much more
tower projected area than a crank up. Anybody have the PE calcs for a
Trylon or something similar?
I can see that light guying would reduce sway, but what is it in the
tower structure that is the limiting factor and effectively near failure
at the 85 mph loading? The legs on my tower are 16ga at the top and
8ga or 10ga at the bottom. The cross brace and leg fasteners are in
shear, not tightened to critical slip. My leg bolts are 3/8 at the top
and 5/8 Gr5 at the bottom, 2 ea per leg joint, a clue to the forces
involved. My gut votes for leg hole tearout or maybe cross brace
failures (1/4" or 5/16" bolts), the legs are stamped from 32ksi sheet
metal. It's not too hard to run the numbers of bolt shear vs hole tear
out on a bottom section, and compare that to the HDX589 loads, but maybe
the limits are elsewhere.
If guys work then can I put a 35' 3" mast with a stack out the top of my
T200-80? ;-) ;-) A Super Titan could do it.
Building an FEA model would be quite a project, but likely necessary to
get an answer to your question.
Grant KZ1W
On 8/12/2013 4:40 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:
On 8/12/2013 2:58 PM, Grant Saviers wrote:
I can't follow your analysis, so here are some numbers for an HDX589
from my PE analysis:
That said, I would bet on the hoist cables as the failure point if guys
I should have said that my original query was not aimed at
crankup towers. I have no intention of adding guys to my HDX5106.
But the previous owner of it did have guys at the top of the 24 foot
mast and got away with it. He only sold the tower to me because
he wanted more height. It was on the top of a mountain, so it
probably saw some pretty good winds.
Rick N6RK
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