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Re: [TowerTalk] Antennas, and other gear, that work

To: Larry Loen <lwloen@gmail.com>, GEO Badger <w3ab@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antennas, and other gear, that work
From: Tim Kass <timkass@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:19:37 -0400
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Good point, .. I always wondered why some hams buy the best, most expensive 
radio they can afford, then put up the cheapest antenna or the most simplistic, 
dipole,etc. instead of looking and researching a bit more on higher gain wire 
antennas..that cost little or nothing more than what they already put up.  When 
your young, and poor, a spool of wire is a good investment. These days you 
don't even have to buy an antenna book, just type in what you are looking for 
on the internet at the library.  I guess that's why we call some of them 
"appliance" operators, they want the "plug N play" stuff - no asssembly 
necessary.. hi hi
 
73, Tim K8WBL





 
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:55:30 -0700
> From: lwloen@gmail.com
> To: w3ab@yahoo.com
> CC: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Antennas, and other gear, that work
> 
> Well, once you "hit the wall" at maybe 150 countries or so, (or don't get
> the contest scores you want), you start to raise your standards.  That
> inevitably increases your contact with theory and overrules past practice.
> "Not working" is always relative, it seems.
> 
> For instance, I once put up a basic Butternut 5 band vertical with a
> whopping four buried radials.  It actually worked "well enough" on
> 40/20/15/10 to get me to maybe 200 countries.  I even worked South Sandwich
> on 40 meters with that setup.
> 
> But, my results on 80 were really terrible and remained that way until I
> put down the 64 radials recommended in "Low Band DXing", which I hadn't
> done.  Suddenly, I was doing stuff on 80 that I never did before.  I was
> able to achieve more on 40, too, when I did what, you know, theory demanded.
> 
> I think most of us have a similar learning curve, except maybe we forget
> what we learned and why; once learned, you tend to "just do it" in your
> future endeavors.
> 
> It works the other direction, too.  Now that I have that tower at 65 feet,
> the results I'm having there throws a retroactive light on what I used to
> be able to do and would color my efforts were I to decide to rely on wire
> antennas again.
> 
> 
> 
> Larry Wo0Z
> 
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 7:50 AM, GEO Badger <w3ab@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > As pointed out by others here, we put up many antennas and used cheap, err
> > inexpensive, gear and made lots of contacts and we didn't know our set-ups
> > wouldn't work. Now we know they won't work.
> >
> > Why?
> >
> >
> > ---
> >   Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side.
> >     GEO
> >       http://www.w3ab.org
> >
> > "There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this
> > line." - Oscar Levant
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