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Re: [TowerTalk] IARU Team Stations

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] IARU Team Stations
From: Bryan Swadener <bswadener@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:10:29 -0700 (PDT)
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Going back to the late 80s, I've used two lengths of steel wire rope to connect 
the 20' falling derrick to my homebrew 40' tilt-up/rotatable Field Day mast.  
The mast supports a tribander and the top guys are inverted vees for 80 & 40.  
It's light enough that a couple of burly dudes might be able to tilt it up/down 
but I still use a winch.  The cable is operated WAY below its rating.  IME, 
stretch is infinitessimal.

The mast uses common 1-1/4" Schedule 40 pipe, connected with modified rigid 
electrical conduit couplings.  1-1/2" floor flanges serve as rotating guy rings 
(they pass the pipe but not the couplings).  Guys are at 20' and 35'.  The base 
is X-shaped, fabricated from angle stock, with a Tee fitting for the falling 
derrick immediately above the bottom rotating joint.  After tilting up, a short 
piece of pipe + rod driven into the ground serves as a rotation limiter.

vy 73,
Bryan WA7PRC


> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:31:20 -0700
> From: Rick Karlquist
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] IARU Team Stations
> 
> Using steel helps, but the wire still forms a catenary
> that makes it behave as if it had some stretch.
> 
> Rick N6RK
> 
> On 7/28/2012 9:23 PM, Mark Pride wrote:
> > Rick,
> > The link from the top of the derrick to the tower
> (lifting component) is
> > a steel cable so practically no stretch here.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mark, K1RX
> > *From:* Rick Karlquist
> > *Sent:* Saturday, July 28, 2012 11:18 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [TowerTalk] IARU Team Stations
> >
> > This is obviously a successful set up, but one thing
> > that I don't like is that the derrick is rigidly
> coupled
> > to the tower.  I tried this years ago and
> discovered that
> > if the rope between the tower and derrick has any
> stretch
> > in it, you can end up with a lot of strain on the
> > connection between the pieces.  What I do instead
> is
> > have independent pivots for the tower and derrick.
> > Then the ropes are non critical.
> >
> > Rick N6RK
> >
> > On 7/28/2012 1:03 PM, Hector Garcia XE2K wrote:
> >  > take a look
> >  >
> > http://s1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj529/wrtc2014/WRTC%20Station%20Test%202012/K1RX%20Photos/
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > also facebook
> >  >
> >  > http://www.facebook.com/wrtc2014
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >  J.Hector Garcia  XE2K / AD6D
> >  > Mexicali B.C  DM22fp
> >  > P.O.Box 73
> >  > El Centro CA 92244-0073
> >  > http://xe2k.net
> >  >
> >  > ________________________________
> >  > From: Bud Kozloff
> >  > To: towertalk@contesting.com
> >  > Sent: Sat, July 28, 2012 12:52:36 PM
> >  > Subject: [TowerTalk] IARU Team Stations
> >  >
> >  > Thinking of a "temporary" 35ft 25G Setup
> >  > w/A4S on top similar to what
> >  > they are doing for the 2014 temporary team
> >  > stations.
> >  > How are they installing the towers? Actually
> >  > pouring foundations?
> >  > Putting a 10ft section in a 5ft hole and
> >  > digging it out afterwards?
> >  > How are they installing the guys?  Any
> >  > info would be appreciated.
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