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Re: [TowerTalk] Cost effectivel Tower height

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cost effectivel Tower height
From: Bob K6UJ <k6uj@pacbell.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:19:47 -0800
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wow,   I will sell mine with a 50% discount for $500.00   hihi

Bob
K6UJ



On Dec 15, 2011, at 10:57 AM, larryjspammenot@teleport.com wrote:

> I looked over on Amazon.com for the latest ARRL Antenna Book, so I can get a 
> copy of HFTA to run the numbers for my QTH. They usually have much better 
> prices than the ARRL site. I recently ordered their Tower Book, since the ham 
> stores were out of stock at all locations when I checked, and picked it up 
> from Amazon at a very reduced price with free shipping.
> 
> But looking for the antenna book, I see that they have a copy of it for 
> $999.99, plus shipping! 
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ARRL+Antenna+Book
> 
> I wonder how many copies they've sold? Maybe to unsuspecting XYLs getting 
> Christmas gifts for the OM......
> 
> LJ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andreas Hofmann <Andreas.Hofmann@microsoft.com>
>> Sent: Dec 14, 2011 11:13 PM
>> To: "[TowerTalk]" <towertalk@contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cost effectivel Tower height
>> 
>> Hi
>> I want to thank everyone on this alias to suggest running HFTA.  I spent and 
>> couple of hours tonight and now realized  that this was a very valuable 
>> exercise. Since I promised to report back some findings here it is:
>> 
>> I got a couple of directions with slopes. My slope to Europe especially is a 
>> very even 300 feet drop off over the first 2500 feet.  This seems to be 
>> working extremely well. To Europe as an example, I can get up to a 11 dbi 
>> gain at 4 degrees elevation angle on 40 with 2 el. Yagi at 55 feet.  On flat 
>> ground that same antenna at that height would perform 15 dbi lower (-4).  
>> If I switch to a 3 el yagi at 55 feet on 20 m, I seem to even max out at 16 
>> dbi at 3 degrees elevation. Almost too good to be true.   
>> 
>> 
>> Summary:
>> Unless I am doing something wrong with HFTA, in my case there is no need at 
>> all to go above 55 feet (size of a small tubular crank up mast).  Remember 
>> my goals from below, no huge expenditure and good DX setup 40 and up.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Andreas
>> KU7T
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com 
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Hofmann
>> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:47 AM
>> To: Joe Subich, W4TV; Drax Felton; [TowerTalk]
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cost effectivel Tower height
>> 
>> I have received an overwhelming response to my questions.  I should have 
>> mentioned a few more points/requirements:
>> 
>> - single multiband beam 40 - 10. No stacks. I am running verticals and wires 
>> hanging in trees and can hear ok, but are not being heard well on 40 for 
>> example.   I want at least a few S units improvement and F/B would be great 
>> as well.
>> - I like DX and DX contesting, but casually.    Focus on Europe.
>> - self supporting, no guy wires
>> - low profile to appease to wife and neighbors
>> - cheap. This is a hobby for me and I am not retired (:-)
>> - account for the sloping terrain, so if it can be lower because of it, yes, 
>> yes, hence cheaper.
>> 
>> I understand that any multi-band beam is a compromise.
>> I understand that any beam might not work to its maximum into all DX 
>> directions (different angles needed).
>> 
>> At this point, I want to thank all of you for your input. I will run the 
>> suggested software and report back with my findings.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Andreas
>> KU7T
>> 
>> 
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