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Re: [TowerTalk] Zoning question - Putnam County Florida

To: "Mickey Baker" <fishflorida@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Zoning question - Putnam County Florida
From: "Telegraphy.com" <trogo@telegraphy.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 09:56:27 -0500
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Ok great!  Before I read - if I have 1 acre or more can I put up more than one 
tower?

Thanks again.

Tony

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mickey Baker 
  To: Telegraphy.com 
  Cc: xnewyorka@hotmail.com ; TowerTalk 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Zoning question - Putnam County Florida


  Get a copy of Fred Hopengarten's book Antenna Zoning for the Radio Amateur 
and check out his site: 
http://www.antennazoning.com/main/page_amateur_radio_main_menu.html


  The case law has already been framed out by Florida courts and the statutes 
are clear. You will be able to put up a tower, but allow $1500 or so for 
engineering and perhaps legal fees.


  
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?StatuteYear=2011&AppMode=Display_Results&Mode=Search%2520Statutes&Submenu=2&Tab=statutes&Search_String=amateur+radio




  On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Telegraphy.com <trogo@telegraphy.com> wrote:

    Excellent - I'll read those and proceed accordingly - many thanks!!!!!

    Tony

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Mickey Baker 
      To: xnewyorka@hotmail.com 
      Cc: trogo@telegraphy.com ; TowerTalk 
      Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:03 AM
      Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Zoning question - Putnam County Florida


      You can fnd the applicable Putnam County code here. 
      http://www.municode.com/library/clientCodePage.aspx?clientID=11475 


      There's also the Palatka city code on the municode site.
      
http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientID=10225&stateID=9&statename=Florida


      A quick looks shows no regulation for antenna height at the County level, 
but some at the city level - check it out, it appears to exclude amateur radio 
towers.


      If you live in the unincorporated county, you will likely have no 
problems erecting a safely engineer (to Florida Building Code, which includes 
wind survivability to EIA RS 222 specific to your area!!)


      You'll have no problem in Palatka in a residential zoned area for < 50'.


      Florida statute guides the cities and counties. Here's a search result 
that contain the state statutes:


      
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?StatuteYear=2011&AppMode=Display_Results&Mode=Search%2520Statutes&Submenu=2&Tab=statutes&Search_String=amateur+radio




      I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, just amateur radio advice!


      73,


      Mickey N4MB




      On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:07 AM, John W <xnewyorka@hotmail.com> wrote:


        Hi Tony,

        Zoning regulations are created by the town, not by the county.
        Secondly, anything anyone tells you, through list or otherwise, is not 
valid.
        Even what the town zoning officer tells you might not necessarily be 
valid.
        The only valid source for this information is the town zoning 
regulations themselves.
        You should try and find the complete set of regulations online, or go 
to the town hall and buy a copy.
        You will then need to either spend a significant amount of time reading 
them, or else find an attorney experienced in these matters to help you.
        Also, I believe there is an reflector similar to this one specifically 
for zoning issues, but I can't remember the name off the top of my head.

        If you haven't decided on a specific town yet, then when you have 
narrowed down your preferences to a few towns, you should check the regulations 
in each town and choose the one that is the most conformant to PRB-1.

        After reading the regulations, if you can't find anything restricting 
the height of non-commercial antenna support structures, then either you missed 
seeing the restriction because it was buried somewhere you didn't look, or else 
you have been lucky enough to find a town that has no restriction. (There are 
still a few such towns left in the USA, although their number is dwindling. If 
you find one, buy a house there and put up some antennas!)

        Also, you should probably buy the book "Antenna Zoning for the Radio 
Amateur" by Fred Hopengarten.
        
http://www.antennazoning.com/main/page_amateur_radio_antenna_zoning_book.html
        It will help you with your permit application if you need to file one, 
and chances are that you will need to file one.

        73 & GL,

        John
        W2ID



        >>Message: 6
        Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 13:18:51 -0500
        From: "Telegraphy.com" <trogo@telegraphy.com>
        Subject: [TowerTalk] Zoning question - Putnam County Florida
        To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
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        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

        I'm thinking of buying a home in Putnam County Florida - is anyone 
familiar with the tower
        zoning regulations down there?

        73

        Tony


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