I had a volunteer helping me. Didn't cost me a penny. I believe that if we
would have to continue further he might have asked. Well, I received my permit
TODAY 155 days after I applied for it. It was suppose to take maximum 100 days
but bureaucrats know well how to make life miserable. I have to wait to put the
tower up next years.
73 de Hans - N2JFS
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com>
To: hanslg@aol.com
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:41 am
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: HELP WITH TOWER PERMITNG IN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA
Bear in mind that the ARRL volunteer counsel program does not mean
that the attorney will take your case on a volunteer or pro bono
basis. You still have to pay their fee.
What ARRL will do for free is give you guidance on how to proceed and
if there has been a similar case in your state/town they can help you
with that. But what they will tell you is pretty much what is in the
antenna zoning book.
But really, if you haven't even reached out to the city's building
department, going to ARRL is kind of jumping the gun. You need to
talk to your city FIRST and when they say no THEN you can go lawyer
up. Who knows, they may very well say yes...
Ryan, N2RJ
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:03 AM, <hanslg@aol.com> wrote:
> Beside Mickey's correct suggestions I want to add; contact ARRL. I am also in
the middle of a similar "discussion" and it is amazing how uneducated zoning
people can be. ARRL provided me with an excellent attorney that know his field
and represented me during the hearing.
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> Even if it possible you can do it yourself, it is a lot better to have
somebody experienced at your side.
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> Hans - N2JFS
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mickey Baker <fishflorida@gmail.com>
> To: JOHNNY BABCOCK <kilosevenbravoindiagolf@gmail.com>
> Cc: TOWERTALK@contesting.com
> Sent: Wed, Sep 22, 2010 11:09 pm
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] HELP WITH TOWER PERMITNG IN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA
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> Johnny,
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> The State of Florida has codified PRB-1 as well. Additionally, there is a
> City statute that specifically says that height restrictions in my zoning
> area are not applicable to amateur radio masts and towers.
>
> I am not an attorney, this is not legal advice. I'd suggest you read
> everything you can about the law and how some of the court cases have been
> handled in your region before buying a tower.
>
> I'm going through this process with the City of Fort Lauderdale, FL. The
> permit was rejected by zoning because there's a 35 foot limitation in my
> zoning district. After a polite and pleasant conversation with our chief of
> zoning he agreed to discuss the height limitation with the City Attorney's
> office and get back to me. As he requested, I sent him copies of the Florida
> statute, PRB-1 and RM-8763 with the appropriate rulings highlighted.
>
> That's where it stands. During our conversation, the city zoning official
> made it clear that his personal feelings were to deny the application
> because of the potential for public complaint, but if the law required him
> to issue a permit, he would do so. He also told me that he was not aware of
> ANY permits issued for amateur radio structures in this city, with a
> population of about 200,000! Don't go to the city building department
> thinking that there is anyone there who has any idea about these issues! It
> will be up to you to politely and gently introduce your project, educate the
> building department and to sell your project. I'm still in the selling
> phase, hoping against, but prepared to litigate if necessary. I like where I
> live and I don't want to move to a rural area to enjoy amateur radio.
> Besides, I would really miss my wife.
>
> I spent about 3 months putting together a permit package and applying to the
> city. Including drawings and engineering documentation, the application
> package was 50 or so pages.
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> I followed the guidelines outlined in the publication, *Antenna Zoning for
> the Radio Amateur *by Fred Hopengarten, K1VR. Fred's book is currently out
> of print, but I wrote to him and he suggested that a new edition will be out
> shortly. I'm using a copy lent to me by a local ham (thanks again, Todd!)
> who has successfully navigated these waters in a nearby city.
>
> That's the latest on my antenna permit application. If you're up for the
> challenge, I'd suggest you spend a few hours reading everything on Fred
> Hopengarten's web site: http://www.antennazoning.com!
>
> (I don't know Fred other than through a single email exchange, but, in my
> limited experience, his book is spot-on with advice and tactics, no matter
> where you live!)
>
> 73,
>
> Mickey, N4MB
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> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:04 PM, JOHNNY BABCOCK <
> kilosevenbravoindiagolf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> HI,
>>
>> DOES ANY ONE HAVE ANY RECENT INFORMATION ON INSTALLING A TOWER WITHIN THE
>> CITY OF LAS VEGAS ?
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>> WHAT TYPES OF TOWERS ARE APPROVED, HEIGHTS, WIND LOADS, COSTS FOR PERMITS.
>>
>> POTENTIAL MINEFEILDS.
>>
>> THANK YOU IN ADVANCE,
>>
>> JOHN
>> K7BIG
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> Fort Lauderdale, FL
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> I will learn.” Teton Lakota, American Indian Saying.
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