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Re: [TowerTalk] Plastic Owls

To: "J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT" <w2ttt@att.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Plastic Owls
From: Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:20:53 -0700
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Gordon,

I am using the Bird-X  Model BGX and haven't had any problems so far with RFI 
from it.
I have it plugged into a dedicated circuit for the tower drive winch whether 
that makes any 
difference.   

73,
Bob
K6UJ


Bird-X Balcony Guard Ultrasonic Bird Repeller
Model # BGX  

On Sep 6, 2010, at 9:47 AM, J.Gordon Beattie, Jr., W2TTT wrote:

> Bob,
> I had a unit from Bird-X about five years ago and I found that it produced
> an amazing amount of RFI on HF and 6M.  I can't recall if it extended up to
> 2M.  One strategy might be to turn it off, when operating.  
> Which model did you find helpful and what is your experience with RFI from
> the device?  
> 
> Thanks & 73,
> Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
> 201.314.6964
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Robert Harmon
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 6:43 PM
> To: Steven Kerns
> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Plastic Owls
> 
> Steve,
> 
> You are quite right.   Duly noted.  No more on divining rods from
> me..................
> 
> Back to our forum, hi,hi.
> I couldn't find much in the archives on solutions to birds on our antennas.
> I wanted to follow 
> up on my last comment concerning my (unsuccessful)  experience with a
> plastic owl for bird abatement. 
> I have found a solution that so far has worked well for me.
> We are surrounded with vineyards around here and birds are are big issue for
> the winery owners.
> I found out that many of the wineries use a network of ultrasonic bird
> repellers.   It was suggested
> that I try a small ultrasonic unit mounted close to the tower.  I purchased
> a small unit manufactured by Bird-X
> from Home Depot and mounted it about 5 foot up from the base of the tower.
> Voila, it works !
> The cost for one of these units isn't much more than a plastic owl.   I
> cleaned the bird droppings 
> off my owl and mounted him on a fence post in the back yard.  (I may have to
> mount a tiny umbrella
> above him to protect him from bird droppings, hi,hi)
> 
> 73,
> Bob
> K6UJ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 1, 2010, at 5:16 AM, Steven Kerns wrote:
> 
>> I thought this forum was towerTalk.  I see nothing here in this lengthly
> discussion that has to do with towers...
>> 
>> I am sure you can find a divining forum somewhere on the internet to
> further discuss this.
>> 
>> 
>> Steve, N3FTI
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Wed, 9/1/10, Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> From: Robert Harmon <k6uj@pacbell.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd:  Divining rods
>>> To: hanslg@aol.com
>>> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
>>> Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 12:33 AM
>>> Hans,
>>> 
>>> I'll bet it can, hi,hi.  
>>> 
>>> I'll tell you one thing they sure don't scare the birds
>>> away.
>>> I bought one from HRO and put it on the very top of the
>>> mast on my tower.  I didn't notice any decrease in the
>>> birds.
>>> After about six months I was up on the tower doing some
>>> antenna work and climbed up to check on the owl.
>>> The birds didn't give my owl any respect, he was covered
>>> with bird s### , hi,hi.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> K6UJ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:23 PM, hanslg@aol.com
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder if a north-seeking, plastic owl can do?
>>>> 
>>>> Hans
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
>>>> To: Alan NV8A <nv8a@charter.net>
>>>> Cc: TowerTalk <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 8:10 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Divining rods
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Alan NV8A wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I remember reading decades ago that, according to
>>> the laws of 
>>>>> aerodynamics, bees cannot fly because their wings
>>> are not large enough
>>>>> for their body size. The bees, however, being
>>> unfamiliar with the laws 
>>>>> of aerodynamics, just keep flying anyway.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That's a canard..
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> it was originally intended to demonstrate that simple
>>> models do not 
>>>> always work (e.g. flapping wings are not steady state
>>> flow, no you can't 
>>>> neglect thermodynamics, etc.)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sort of like modeling an antenna as a lumped
>>> RLC.  Works for small 
>>>> frequency ranges, but not for large ones.
>>>> 
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