jimlux wrote:
> Mike Besemer (WM4B) wrote:
>
>> How, it the real world of ham radio, do you experience hearing the
>> difference of 3dB daily?
>>
>> I'm not talking about a lab.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Yes..
> 3dB is the difference between unreadable and barely readable against the
> noise floor. The difference between the 3kHz and 2.4kHz IF filter on
> SSB is a lot less than 3dB and readily audible on a weak signal (on HF).
>
> It's probably the difference between somewhat noisy and full quieting
> on a FM rig.
>
> At threshold, 3dB is important.
>
> At S9 or 60 over, 3dB is irrelevant.
>
Not if that's your noise floor, which isn't all that uncommon up here in
snow country when the wind blows. <:-))
It was S7 last night and very steady, well...night before last now.
> Now, if you start talking 1dB... 1dB is very close to a "just noticeable
> difference" in audio levels..
That is the definition of 1 db (just barely detectable) It just so
happens our hearing is logarithmic so to us, the change sounds linear.
If it's under 6 KHz I'll probably be able to detect the difference. If
it's below 120 Hz I will detect it. If it's 8 KHz and above I won't hear
anything to be able to detect the difference. At that frequency my
hearing is 80db down. IOW, it's a good low pass filter, except for some
reason screaming kids in the grocery aisle can hit a note that resonates
in my ears that is actually painful...very painful.
73
Roger (K8RI)
> that is, if you have two tones that are
> 0.5dB apart in level, you'll have a hard time telling the difference
> between them. (see, e.g. Weber-Fechner law, etc.)
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