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Re: [TowerTalk] Cable Runs

To: ersmar@verizon.net, lboekeloo@sbcglobal.net, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cable Runs
From: TexasRF@aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:49:59 EDT
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Gene's email is chock full of good ideas and advice. The serpentine step is 
 a stroke of genius! 
 
A corrugated drain pipe can also be used if an additional step is added:  
where the pull cables and wires merge together, create a round ball shape by  
wrapping the bundle with electrical tape. A diameter about inch greater 
than the  cable bundle works well. The "ball" is far easier to drag across the  
corrugations than the cable ends snagging every foot or two.
 
Don't forget to pull in a secondary pull rope along with the cables in case 
 you ever want to add or replace a cable later. This also gives a way to 
back up  in case something really gets hung up inside the pipe.
 
73,
Gerald K5GW
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/27/2009 5:12:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
ersmar@verizon.net writes:

Larry:

For that length of conduit run, I'd  advise against corrugated drain 
pipe.  The leading end of the  cable/snake rope will get caught in the 
corrugations along the way.   You ought to consider two parallel runs, too, 
to accommodate the largish  hardline runs.

I'd recommend using PVC conduit -  the gray stuff that was meant for 
pulling cables through.  You didn't  say whether this 200 feet was a 
straight 
line or included turns.  If  turns, then make them with PVC sweeps - NOT 
elbows.  The sweeps area  a gentle radius, rather than an abrupt change in 
direction that is  difficult to pull - especially hardline - through.  You 
can buy the  sweeps at an electrical supply store, where you would also buy 
the PVC  conduit and its glue.

No matter whether you've got  a straight shot or a path with bends, make 
sure you have one or more low  spots in the conduit run.  Water will drain 
to 
these low spots (and  water WILL get into the conduit.)  Then simply drill 
a 
few half-inch  diameter holes in the underside of the conduit at these low 
spots and  cover the holes with landscaping fabric (the kind that lets 
water 
drain in  only one direction) and tie the fabric in place around the 
conduit 
at the  holes with #14 solid wire (it's cheap.)

The final  step is to construct a sump well underneath the holes into 
which the  conduit water will spill.  This sump drain is a hole that you 
refill  with gravel or crushed rocks.  Some folks might call this a French  
drain.  The size of the sump drain hole depends on how many low spots  you 
have and how much water each drain hole must disperse.

A final bit of advice:  When you lay out your cable at one  end of the 
conduit run, don't lay it out in a long, straight line.   If you do, you'll 
be pulling the entire length of the cable all the  time.  Instead, lay out 
your cable on the ground at one end of the  conduit run in a serpentine 
pattern (remember "The Inlaws"?) at right  angles to the conduit run so 
that 
you are adding only one S-curve of cable  to the pull weight at a time.  
The 
cable will look kind of like this  === SSSSSS before you pull, with the top 
of one S connected to the bottom  of the next one, etc.  (The == is the 
conduit.)


73  de
Gene Smar  AD3F



----- Original Message -----  
From: "Larry Boekeloo" <lboekeloo@sbcglobal.net>
To:  <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:45  AM
Subject: [TowerTalk] Cable Runs


My new tower will be 200 feet  from the shack. Any ideas what to run the 
cables in underground? Pvc?  Flexbile black piping?

I'll have four runs of hardline and three runs  of rotor cable. Looking for 
ideas from the  group.

Thanks.

Larry,  KN8N
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