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[TowerTalk] 80m 4 sq shortened vs full sized

To: "'Billy Cox'" <aa4nu@ix.netcom.com>, "'Tower Talk'" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] 80m 4 sq shortened vs full sized
From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:30:56 -0600
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Sorry,

Brain was out thinking the typing fingers LOL!  I forgot the subject which
would have helped too.

Yes we are on the same page.  Bandwidth is worth considering.  

 


"A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may
never get over." Ben Franklin
-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Cox [mailto:aa4nu@ix.netcom.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:23 PM
To: W0MU Mike Fatchett
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] (no subject)

Hey Mike ... are you asking as to a shortened array vs full sized?

<me thinks there is a word missing in your question>

Short answer is ... they will work, AS LONG AS you have a better than
average ground system ... that was my finding when I pondered this very
question before I took my full sized array down for R&R.

The other point mentioned frequently was the bandwidth was better with the
full size ... most ended up using some form of switching to go from CW to
SSB. <Note this was before the SSB band changes>.

So, are we discussing the same thing here?

73/bc/NU

-----Original Message-----
>From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
>Sent: Mar 11, 2009 10:53 PM
>To: 'Tower Talk' <towertalk@contesting.com>
>Subject: [TowerTalk] (no subject)
>
>I have searched Google for quite a while now and have come up empty.
>
>Has anyone used/modeled/etc an 80m 4 sq over a full sized 4 sq. array?
>
>I have not really found any shortened 80 verticals.  I am not sure that 
>a shortened solution is going save much expense.
>
>I see DX Eng has a 66 ft vertical that needs to be guyed and runs about 
>$200 for the aluminum kit, $160 for the tilt base and about $80 for the 
>guying kit.
>
>I would be curious to know what others might have used.
>
>I am looking at the bent 4 SQ by K9RS hung off my tower.
>
>I am looking to get a lower angle signal out on 80 for better Dx.
>
>I appreciate the feedback.
>
>Mike W0MU
>
>
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