Randy and others here...
It is silly to hear of someone even THINKING of taking a chance with
something like this. Just silly...
Get some 8ft x 4ft plywood, and make yourself a square form, 4ft x 4ft.
Make a second one 4ft x 4ft. Place one down in the hole as you go...get
deep enough place the second one right on top of it. Do your rebar work,
take them out of the hole, pour your concrete, save your life. Your life
insurance company will love you for it. Got your tower up yet Randy? -
Mike
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[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 10:36 PM
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com; bill rubin
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Digging the Hole
And, it doesn't even have to get up to your chest; if your diaphragm
can't move, you can't breathe.
Randy
KZ4RV
Tom Haavisto wrote:
> I would be VERY VERY careful about recommending anyone hand dig such a
> hole. If the walls of the hole cave in, you will literally be digging
> your own grave. There was a bit on the local news last year where two
> men were in a four foot deep hole and the sides caved in. One
> perished, the other was badly injured. With a full load of dirt, your
> chest cannot move, and they were done.
>
> I prefer to have a machine dig my holes. The sides are less than
> perfect, but I just add more concrete to make up for it. I built a
> form above ground to make it "look nice".
>
> Tom - VE3CX
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Rick Karlquist <richard@karlquist.com>
wrote:
>
>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Bill Gaines AD8P <ad8p@wcoil.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Some many months ago I either asked on this reflector or read on it
>>>> about
>>>> the particular piece of equipment some of you have used to dig a 3-1/2X
>>>> 3-1/2X 7-1/2 deep hole for an LM-370 tower. I am at the point I can
>>>> actually
>>>>
>> Probably a minority opinion here:
>>
>> I have dug by hand three holes that were only 3x3 feet across and 6 or 7
>> ft deep. I used a short handled spade, a small pick, a bucket,
>> a small ladder, and a yardstick to measure 3 feet. The last
>> one was a virtually perfect 3x3x6; almost hated to pour concrete into
>> it. Exactly 2 yards did it. BTW, this was dug through waterproof
>> "cemented hard pan." No rocks though. The other 2 holes were dug
through
>> ordinary clay (watered first) but with rocks.
>>
>> Getting down to 7 1/2 feet may require a helper to pull the bucket
>> up with a rope and help with the ladder.
>>
>> It can be done!
>>
>> If you want to use a machine, get a well digger truck with a 4 ft
>> auger and make the holes a 4 ft circle. They will be very accurate.
>>
>> Rick N6RK
>>
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