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Re: [TowerTalk] Guyed vs. free-standing

To: "Anthony J. Di Sano" <adisano@gmail.com>,"Dan Hearn" <dhearn@air-pipe.com>,"Russell Hill" <rustyhill@earthlink.net>, K7LXC@aol.com,towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guyed vs. free-standing
From: "Alex Malyava" <alex.k2bb@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:53:45 -0400
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Can you climb it, or, let me rephrase it - what is the lightest tower model
you can safely climb up?


2007/10/15, Anthony J. Di Sano <adisano@gmail.com>:
>
> Freestanding aluminum. Light, strong and last forever.
>
> http://www.universaltowers.com/products.html
>
> Sounds like you are in the market for a HD-16-80.
>
> Good Luck.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Dan Hearn
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 10:34 AM
> To: Russell Hill; K7LXC@aol.com; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guyed vs. free-standing
>
> Of course, everything Steve says about the comparison is true. However
> nothing has been said about installing antennas on the tower. The self
> supporting tower allows yagis to be raised vertically with ease while
> guyed
> towers require working the antenna thru the guy wires. The Trylon or AN
> towers look good to me although I use crankups and find them to be an
> excellent choice. They can be bought used quite reasonably in SK estate
> sales in this area and can be hauled on a boat or car transport trailer. I
> will concede that the bolt together towers, either guyed or not are easier
> to transport. These are some other factors to be considered.
>
> 73, Dan, N5AR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Russell Hill
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:48 AM
> To: K7LXC@aol.com; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guyed vs. free-standing
>
>
> So for this dummy, for a given height and load, in the 60 to 80 foot
> range,
> does the guyed tower still retain its cost advantage when you factor in
> the
> extra anchor points with the steel in them and the guy wire or Phillystran
> for the tower?
>
> Thanks,
> Rusty, na5tr
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <K7LXC@aol.com>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Guyed vs. free-standing
>
>
> >
> > In a message dated 10/14/2007 8:15:50 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > towertalk-request@contesting.com writes:
> >
> >>  I see where KA9FOX put up a self supporting 72' Trylon at  his old qth
> >> and
> > at his new qth, he put up a 95' Rohn 55G.  I know at his  old qth, he
> > didn't
> > have the space for the 55G.  Other than the additional  feet between the
> > two,
> > what are the advantages of the guyed Rohn tower over
> the  self-supporting?
> >
> >    Scott has a rotating tower. You can  mount beams anywhere on the
> tower
> > and they'll all turn together. If it  was a standard fixed 55G you could
> > still
> > have side-mounted antennas using  swinging gate side-mounts or TIC
> > rotators.
> > The additional face width of the  self-supporting tower makes this kind
> of
> > difficult.
> >
> >    Another difference is the load at height. If you  wanted to go higher
> > with the self-supporter, the tower capacity goes down  fairly quickly;
> not
> > so
> > fast with the guyed tower since it uses the guy wires  as part of the
> > supporting
> > structure. Guyed towers are typically cheaper  because of that. The cost
> > of a
> > tower is the cost of the steel in it.  Self-supporting towers generally
> > have
> > much more steel in them for the height  than a guyed tower so they're
> more
> > expensive.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Steve     K7LXC
> > TOWER TECH and
> > _www.championradio.com_ (http://www.championradio.com)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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