Then again, it might not be that at all.
When I lived in Georgia I ran into something very similar. I did some
back tracking to see where all of that nonsense came from and guess
what, it came from the PE's pressuring the local politicians to add it
into the regulations!!
On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 19:25 -0400, Dick, W1KSZ wrote:
> It's called Revenue Enhancement down at Town Hall. Nickel & Dime (only
> the Nickel is $50 and the Dime is $100) them at every turn. Allows the
> Town to keep running amok spending your money.
> Fiscal responsibility is a 4-letter word to them.
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
>
> bill rubin wrote:
> > You missed the point it was not the additional cost that it was excessive,
> > it was the fact that then need a stamp on each page of the spec. I have a
> > PE stamped letter from Rohn that said per design 45G90110, and I walk them
> > through the spec showing how it was cross referenced. That was not good
> > enough for them. They want a stamp on each page.
> >
> > So why would they need a stamp on each page ? The letter from Rohn with the
> > stamp referencing the spec was good enough ! What margin of safety is a by
> > having a stamp on each page ? What value is have a PE stamp when the
> > manufacture is TIA-222 compliant ?
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > On 8/31/07, BobK8IA@aol.com <BobK8IA@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> *Bill;*
> >> **
> >> *$400 Excessive? You have to be kidding. That's a joke, right? Good laugh
> >> for a holiday weekend start. *
> >> **
> >> *The PE and land Surveyor both gave you a deal. If the PE had to run any
> >> kind of thorough structural calculations at all, which he probably did to
> >> satisfy himself that the canned design was competent for your specific soil
> >> conditions, you should have been charged over $250. A gift.*
> >> **
> >> *PE seal/stamp on each page of the tower specs is not uncommon. I ran into
> >> that several times in MI. *
> >> **
> >> *Similarly, I cant recall any RLS who would come out and do much of any
> >> surveying for $100. Another gift.*
> >> **
> >> *You're right about it being cheaper than legal fees. $400 would have
> >> bought you an hours time with most of the atty's I know. ;-)*
> >> **
> >> *Good luck with your project. *
> >> **
> >> **
> >> *73, Bob K8IA*
> >> **
> >> *R.D. Epstein, PE*
> >> *(Registered Professional Engineer in AZ and MI)*
> >> *Mesa, AZ*
> >> **
> >> *-------------------------------*
> >> **
> >> **
> >> In a message dated 8/31/2007 3:19:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> >> brubin2010@gmail.com writes:
> >>
> >> Well I finally got the permit for a 90' tower. But not without issues and
> >> additional expense. My local zoning office seems to believe that Rohn's
> >> specs. or TIA-222 standard are not good enough. nor is a PE Stamp on a
> >> letter saying the design provide is complaint. They required each page of
> >> the spec. have a PE Stamp.
> >>
> >> Cost $250
> >>
> >> Fedex info 3 times about $50
> >>
> >> Also my site plan needed a surveyors stamp. A retired surveyor came out
> >> looked. measured my house to road and driveway and said ok
> >>
> >> Cost $100.
> >>
> >> Additional Cost to project $400
> >>
> >> Was it excessive per PRB-1, yes as far as i am concerned, but to fight it
> >> it
> >> would have cost me more than $400 in legal fees and more time on the
> >> project
> >> with winter months ahead.
> >>
> >> So thats the update.
> >>
> >> 73's Bill N1HWC
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