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Re: [TowerTalk] fold over towers

To: TowerTalk@contesting.com, Gregg Seidl <k9kl@centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] fold over towers
From: Gene Smar <ersmar@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:40:06 -0500 (CDT)
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Greg:

     Based on my experience, I could recommend a Trylon Titan series of SS 
tower.  Mine is their T-500-64.  To haul up the antennas, my ground crew and I 
used a gin pole lashed to the top two feet of tower, with an additional support 
from a heavy chain around the top of the tower leg and a pair of S-hooks in the 
ends of the chain hooked into the bottom of the ginpole.  (This idea from Steve 
K7LXC.)

     The V/UHF vertical and D40 rotatable dipoles were easy to haul up and bolt 
into position.  For my own Skyhawk, I set up two ropes from the top of the 
tower to stakes in the ground a couple of feet off one face of the tower.  The 
ground crew (one guy) pulled on the haul rope as the Skyhawk rode the ropes 
like a set of trolley tracks.  I sent the Skyhawk up the trolley tracks nose 
first, i.e., boom pointing up, so it would clear the trees around the tower.  

     Now that I look back on it, that is really the only way to use the trolley 
rope method without the Yagi rolling around if the boom were to be oriented 
horizontally.  

73 de
Gene Smar  AD3F


From: Gregg Seidl <k9kl@centurytel.net>
Date: 2007/08/29 Wed PM 10:29:07 CDT
To: TowerTalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] fold over towers

I'm trying to decide between a crank-up,fold over or self suporting 
tower.Looking at holding a Becher Skyhawk and Cushcraft XM-240 in the air at 
55-75 feet.I have no problem with climbing but its hard for me to find 
someone to assist on the ground.Its hard for me to install larger antennas 
by myself in the air.So need to find a way to be able to stay close to the 
ground,or not have to deal with the "around guy wire" thing.Crankups scare 
me about price and still gotta climb them somewhat to install antennas on 
the tower but no guy wires to mess you up and could get a manlift.On a side 
note,I was supposed to get an 80 foot manlift but the company backed out of 
the deal when they found someone with deeper pockets then me.I can't find 
another company that will commit to a date,they'll put me on "standby".Which 
I figure means the first blizzard of the winter!!Fold Overs are kinda neat 
because I don't mind climbing to assemble it but would need some help on the 
ground but only once.They kinda scare me because of the danger of the 
leverage of them but if you know what your doing and don't violate what the 
maker says you should be OK.Not sure of the cost or if they are available 
new anymore.I think you can work on the ground with those which is nice, 
very niceSelf supporters get rid of the guy wires but gotta climb them but I 
would think installing antennas would be easy.Just get a pulley on the mast 
and haul it straight up along side the tower,with no guy cables it should be 
kinda easy,no?Again not sure of price but shouldn't be as bad as a 
crankupLooking for ideas or something I missed   Gregg  K9KL. 


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