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Re: [TowerTalk] RG-6 quality ?

To: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>,<towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] RG-6 quality ?
From: "jeremy-ca" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:46:53 -0400
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There used to be a variety of RG-6 diameters just different enough to 
require their own connector. That seems to have thinned down to regular foil 
& braid and Quad shield. I buy 1000' reels of CommScope cable from a CATV 
supplier as well as the connectors. The crimper is multi purpose and does 
RG-59, 6 and 11. Ive had no problem with bad crimps once I got past the 
learning curve.

As long as the braid is dressed properly and the connector isnt thin wall 
junk you wont have any problems. In fact for just a weekend contest anything 
will be OK.

Ive been using 75 Ohm cables here since 1983; RG-6, 11 and hardline from 1.8 
thru 432 MHz and inch for inch of diameter it is lower loss than 50 Ohms.

A loss chart I published in 1988 showing twenty varieties of 50 and 75 Ohm 
cables gives 4.3dB/100' at 432 for RG-6 and 2.1 dB for RG-11 CATV foam.
For RG-58 foam (Belden 8219, 9311) and RG-8 foam ( Belden 8214) the losses 
are 9.2 dB and 3.3 dB respectively.

Carl
KM1H

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
To: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] RG-6 quality ?


> Check for local electrical suppliers. I purchased an Greenley (sp?) 
> crimping
> tool and F-connectors that are *supposed to be water proof. I also have 
> the
> tool and connectors from DX engineering.  Both work fine. As far as the
> cable quality I used the bulk, flooded stuff from DX engineering, but that
> apparently is not an option and for a short run I'd use most any including
> Radio Shack *stuff*.
>
> All of the RG-6 I've used has been the same OD and
>
>
>> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 01:09:43 -0400, Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote:
>>
>>>What can I expect as far as variation in cable quality at UHF if I buy
>>>RG-6 at Home Depot or Lowes or Circuit City?
>
> You're taking pot luck as far as the cable, but it's a short run. If out 
> in
> the weater I'd eventually replace it with some good stuff.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Roger (K8RI)
>
>>
>> An issue more important than loss is making good connections to it. The
>> stuff they sell in these retail houses is designed for MATV and CATV, for
>> use with very good crimp connectors. They have Al shields, not copper, so
>> you can't solder the connectors. DX Eng sells very good F connectors and 
>> a
>> decent crimper, but you don't have time for shipping. :)  The same 
>> company
>> also makes crimp BNCs for those cables. Another tricky deal -- the crimp
>> connectors are matched to the exact diameter and shield construction of
>> the
>> RG6. The wrong size WILL come apart. (This is experience talking). :)
>>
>> For your purposes (35 ft) I wouldn't worry about the loss. But I would
>> worry about the termination.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Jim Brown K9YC
>>
>>
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