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Re: [TowerTalk] Teflon vs. PTFE

To: Jim Jarvis <jimjarvis@optonline.net>, gdaught6@stanford.edu,towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Teflon vs. PTFE
From: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 06:53:23 -0700
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At 06:25 AM 7/28/2007, Jim Jarvis wrote:

>In high-precision measurement systems, distinction was made between teflon
>and PTFE, as to differences in dielectric properties.  If you're measuring
>charge..and using teflon cables...it could take several minutes to discharge
>the teflon cable capacitance to allow a proper measurement....whereas PTFE
>has a lower dielectric constant, due to the micropores.  i.e. Same stuff,
>slightly different form.

It's probably not all that relevant at HF (the phenomena may not 
exist), but some PTFE insulated cables have a non-uniformly varying 
phase vs temperature characteristic, with a step around 15-20C.
http://www.gore.com/en_xx/products/cables/microwave/changes_insertion_loss_phase.html

This would be about a quarter of a degree in a 100 ft run at 30 MHz, 
probably not enough to worry about in a phased array.  The 
attenuation also has a bit of a step, too.



The Gore stuff is interesting, because the dielectric is actually a 
long flat strip that is spiraled around the center conductor. 


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