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Re: [TowerTalk] Tower design question

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower design question
From: Larry DiGioia N8KU <towertalk@longwire.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:35:00 -0400
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That is correct. If you want to crack pileups, "listening skills" and 
"timing" are the way to go.

jeremy-ca wrote:
> Im a certified welder so that wasnt the issue. I simply decided that ground 
> mounted verticals were not the way to go if I wanted to crack pileups.
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
> To: "'jeremy-ca'" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>; "'K4SAV'" <RadioIR@charter.net>; 
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Tower design question
>
>
>   
>> Weld up the splits if they are not too bad and you should be good to go?
>>
>> 73
>> Gary K4FMX
>>
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:towertalk-
>>> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of jeremy-ca
>>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:58 PM
>>> To: 'K4SAV'; towertalk@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower design question
>>>
>>> I have a 5 section Heights I pulled out of the town dump about 20 years
>>> ago
>>> thinking I might make a 80M vertical out of it.. Every section was split
>>> from ice. So much for a stupid design!
>>> Now that aluminum scrap is up I'll take it to the scrap yard.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>> KM1H
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
>>> To: "'Roger (K8RI)'" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>; "'K4SAV'"
>>> <RadioIR@charter.net>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 12:04 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower design question
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I know of two manufacturers that do it "upside down". Heights is one and
>>>> there is another (can't recall the name)  that looks almost like it 
>>>> that
>>>> is
>>>> also upside down. They are aluminum towers and each section is tapered
>>>>         
>>> (so
>>>       
>>>> you can't install them the wrong way) and the upper section joins the
>>>> lower
>>>> section by fitting inside of the lower part. It makes a nice funnel for
>>>> rain. I have one.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Gary  K4FMX
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:towertalk-
>>>>> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Roger (K8RI)
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:52 PM
>>>>> To: K4SAV; towertalk@contesting.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Tower design question
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> I thought this was an interesting question, but no one tackled it
>>>>>>             
>>> except
>>>       
>>>>>> for one guy who said that's the way it's done.  So is that really 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> reason?
>>>>>>             
>>>>> I saw one answer that said that is *not* the way it is done.
>>>>> I have never seen a tower designed the way you describe. They are all
>>>>>           
>>> the
>>>       
>>>>> other way around. The larger tube or bell on on the upper section and
>>>>> sets
>>>>> down *over* the lower.  Small end should always point up with the next
>>>>> section setting down *over* it.
>>>>>
>>>>> That will still not keep water out of the legs except for rain.
>>>>> Atmospheric
>>>>> pressure changes be they barometric changes or due to temperature
>>>>>           
>>> changes
>>>       
>>>>> will cause water to condense inside the tower legs which is the reason
>>>>> for
>>>>> the bottom section setting in pea gravel or sand below the frost level
>>>>>           
>>> so
>>>       
>>>>> it
>>>>> can drain.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger (K8RI)
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Floyd Rodgers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Something has been bothering me for a while. With all the discussion
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> problems with tower leg corrosion, filling with water and splitting,
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> Why do almost ALL the manufacturers design the joints to telescope
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> inside
>>>>>           
>>>>>> >from above which leaves water able to run inside joints and fill
>>>>>>             
>>> tubes?
>>>       
>>>>>>> Why not simply invert the connection by telescoping over the bottom
>>>>>>> section so water just runs outside not through the joint. I know
>>>>>>>               
>>> there
>>>       
>>>>> is
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> no difference in joint strength or assembly difficulty, so why?
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