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Re: [TowerTalk] DPDT Coaxial Relay question or alternative

To: "Clint Talmadge" <unclebudd@bellsouth.net>,<towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] DPDT Coaxial Relay question or alternative
From: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 09:38:47 -0700
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At 06:42 AM 4/8/2007, Clint Talmadge wrote:
>I am building a set of Phased verticals for 30M. I was going to 
>switch in a quarter wave length of coax using a DPDT coaxial relay, 
>to steer the signal 90 degrees (Broad side to End fire).

First off.. a quarter wave of coax won't change the phase 90 degrees 
(unless your verticals are a LONG ways apart.. wavelengths) because 
of the reactive feedpoint impedances and the mutual coupling between 
the antennas.  The ARRL Antenna book and ON4UNs book both cover this 
in some detail, and I have an excel spreadsheet that might be useful 
for you.  There are some "cookbook" lengths for things like resonant 
1/4wave verticals that might work, but in, general, the coax lengths 
are not 1/4 wave different.  You might want to google for "Christman 
phasing" or "K3LC"



>  I went looking for the appropriate relay and found some (Surplus 
> Sales) but the cost was more than I have in the two verticals and 
> the cabling. Does anyone have an inexpensive source for one or an 
> idea on how I might do it with a "regular" DPDT relay? I have some 
> Potter Brumfield that will take the power but how much impedance 
> "bump" will that insert and should I worry about it?

Almost any relay will work, assuming it can take the voltage and 
current.  Sure, there's some wierd impedances there, but you can 
"tune those out".. adjusting the lengths of the coax, or changing the 
antenna length slightly, or, just ignoring it (because it will be small).

If what you're looking for is just the ability to go from broadside 
to endfire, and you're not going to obssess about the last 1/10th dB, 
you can be pretty casual.

Jim, W6RMK 


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