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[TowerTalk] insulating oil (also PCB issues) was Re: HN-31 HeathkitDummy

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Subject: [TowerTalk] insulating oil (also PCB issues) was Re: HN-31 HeathkitDummy Load
From: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:17:24 -0700
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At 09:22 AM 4/4/2006, jcowens@NETSCAPE.COM wrote:
>Is anyone familiar enough with the HN-31 Heathkit Dummy Load (History 
>Lesson)to know how much power you can run to this thing in other than "key 
>down". I don't know if it has transformer oil or Mineral Oil in it. Will 
>it handle 1500W on a 50% duty cycle for a short time?? Does anyone know 
>where I can buy transformer oil, or has OSHA outlawed it by now??
>
>John Owens - N7SEJ

Transformer oil *is* mineral oil. It's fairly low viscosity, and often has 
a small amount of an oxidation inhibitor added so it doesn't spoil.  The 
other important thing for this kind of use is that it is (very)dry and 
clean.  A very small percentage of dissolved water (well below where you'll 
see droplets) greatly reduces the HV breakdown strength. Particulate 
contaminants (cloth fibers, in particular) also cause problems with HV 
breakdown. This probably isn't an issue for cooling a dummy load.

It's available in 5 gallon pails at most oil jobbers, and should run you 
about $4-5/gallon.  Shell Diala, Exxonmobil Univolt, etc.

If you know anywhere local that does transformer rebuilding or servicing 
(e.g. a small electric utility), they might be able to sell/give you a 
gallon (they buy it in 55 gallon drums).

If you can't get real insulating oil in small quantities, you can go to a 
feed store and get regular old USP white mineral oil (used as a laxative 
for horses/cows/etc.) by the gallon.  It's not guaranteed dry or clean, so 
I wouldn't use it for HV insulating.  You also want to get the lowest 
viscosity grade (so that thermal forces can make the oil circulate in the can).

Certain kinds of hydraulic fluid will also work (NOT brake fluid. You want 
the stuff used for cylinders on tractors, etc.).  You want something that's 
low viscosity, and with minimal additives.

Tesla coil hobbyists also use straight weight non-detergent motor oil. You 
want the cheapest of cheap, with minimal additives.. all those additives 
help with lubrication, but cause problems with insulation.


Now, to the OSHA thing...A LONG digression

Some decades back, a class of miraculous HV insulating liquids (askarels) 
were developed that was a) nonflammable, b)a good insulator, c)immiscible 
with water, d)didn't chemically decompose or oxidize.   They were a 
wonderful material for the HV industry: oil fires are a BIG problem 
(particularly in an urban environment) and were a big motivator to going to 
Gas Insulated Switchgear using SF6, but that raises its own set of 
problems. Imagine the effect of a large fault in a piece of oil filled 
switchgear. The extreme heating of the arc causes the oil to decompose, and 
the evolved gas causes the oil to be sprayed out in a large cloud of 
droplets which is ignited by the spark.  Kind of a king-size molotov 
cocktail.  So, Askarels were a god-send.  But....


These were all in the generic class of PolyChlorinatedBiphenyls (PCBs), and 
for the most part are non-toxic and pretty inert, EXCEPT, that there are 
inevitable small amounts (ppm,ppb) contaminants of certain other compounds 
(dioxins) which ARE toxic.  And, sadly, because they're so darn inert, they 
never decompose, so they accumulate and never go away. By the way, toxic 
effects occur just because the molecule is there, and it doesn't get 
consumed in the process of doing its evil work, so that contaminant can do 
its stuff for a long, long time.

So.. big process of getting rid of PCBs (which are contaminated with 
dioxins), leading to superfund sites, etc.  Note that if the PCB is sealed 
into a metal can (as in a fluorescent light ballast), there's little 
likelihood of it ever being released, and even if it did, it's a small 
quantity.  The problem comes in with truckload lots of used insulating 
fluid being used, for instance, as road oil on dirt roads to keep the dust 
down, or with manufacturing facilities draining their (supposedly) inert 
stuff into a big pit.  That's when those ppbs and ppms start to add up 
(especially because the stuff never degrades and tends to sit down in the 
mud in the bottom of the pond/river).

The PCB problem as applied to hams and electrical hobbyists is that that 
there's an enormous amount of really old electrical gear around, some 
filled with oil, some filled with PCBs, some re-filled with oil after 
having had the PCBs drained.  Think of all those pole transformers 
scattered around the country, many having been sitting up there since the 
1940s and the REA.  Think of all the non-existent records of just what's in 
that piece of electrical gear in the salvage yard.  You have no idea 
whether that "oilfilled" widget might have PCBs in it.

Then there is superfund, which creates cradle to grave liability for those 
materials. Cradle to grave liability comes from the practice back in the 
bad, old days, of hazmat disposal by hiring a guy with a tanker to drive 
down the road with the valve "accidentally on purpose" cracked. The waste 
generator says: "We transferred it to our (now-out-of-business with no 
assets) hazmat hauler" {No surprise that this kind of thing was a big money 
maker for organized crime, eh?}

NOBODY who deals with this stuff on any large scale wants the prospect of 
being the "bad guy" in the next Erin Brockovich style movie.  So, they tend 
to take a VERY conservative view of handling.  You want to store a piece of 
electrical equipment with "oil" in it?  Either you have ironclad 
documentation showing it was made recently OR you have concrete pads with 
berms, absorbtion blankets, hazmat spill procedures, etc., etc., etc.  This 
tends to foster a sort of "PCBs are the devil incarnate" sort of 
paranoia.  The actual hazard is quite low, the potential legal and 
publicity exposure is HUGE (particularly if you have assets, and the fickle 
finger of fate points at you).


The upshot is:
Get your oil from somewhere "known good", preferably in brand new 
containers.  Keep the records.(put them in a plastic bag and tape it to the 
dummy load)  Somewhere down the road, someone might want to dispose of your 
dummy load, and life is much easier if you can prove it's nice safe oil.


By the way, there are a couple quick and dirty tests: oil floats on water, 
askarel sinks. A piece of paper soaked in oil burns (real well), a piece of 
paper soaked in askarel doesn't burn very well, if at all.

These tests won't tell you, though, whether you've got one of those 
horrible PCB contaminated equipment refilled with oil situations.


Jim, W6RMK.. (who's bought and spilled a lot of Diala AX over the years) 


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