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Re: [TowerTalk] Rohn 25G

To: "Bill Coleman" <aa4lr@arrl.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rohn 25G
From: "D. Scott MacKenzie" <kb0fhp@comcast.net>
Reply-to: kb0fhp@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:09:08 -0500
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Thank you Bill...Actually I can't type.  It was 2 sections and the top
section - for 3 sections total.  I was planning to put the TH3 on the bottom
of the mast, then put the 6M beam, followed by the 2M and 432 antenna - but
I like the idea of putting the 2m and 432 antennas in the middle and
separating the HF and 6M beams the most...

I was planning to fully bracket and use carriage bolts on the upper bracket,
with additional bracing.  It is also near cross bracing to help carry the
loads away from the side boards.  I intend to do additional bracing and
spread out the load.

Scott
KB0FHP

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Coleman [mailto:aa4lr@arrl.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:47 PM
To: kb0fhp@comcast.net
Cc: TowerTalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rohn 25G



On Feb 27, 2006, at 9:40 AM, kb0fhp@comcast.net wrote:

> I have purchased several sections of Rohn 25G - 3 straight
> sections, and the 8' top section with rotor plate. I want to attach
> this to the side of my two-story house, at two locations (top
> header board, and the bottom board on the second story).  This is
> about 10' and 20' up from grade.

While you might be able to get away with lag bolts at the 10 foot
level into the rim joist, you are going to need carriage bolts
through the header into the brackets.

> What additional things do I need to purchase besides the 10' piece
> that goes in the concrete; the house brackets; and a thrust bearing
> for the mast - what else is required?

You don't need any section that goes into the concrete. Just put the
bottom Rohn 25 section into the concrete. This would give you about
33 feet and change above ground (with almost 5 feet in the ground)
The top of the tower would be 13 feet above the bracket. You could
add another section and be at 43 feet, but that's a lot of tower
above the bracket.

If you do use a 6' base section, then you would be at 39 feet, 19
feet above the top bracket -- about as far as I would recommend.

> Antennas planned are Hy-Gain TH3-MkIII, CC 505S, CC 215 and a M2
> 432-9wl antenna....

That's four antennas - you're going to need a lot of mast for that!
This will increase your overturning moment. Structurally, you're
better off with the largest antennas at the bottom of the mast.
Electrically, the TH3 would want to be the highest, and the 505S the
furthest away from that with the other two in the middle.

I would run some calculations to make sure your bracketed
installation will have enough strength to hold all these antennas at
the height you desire at the maximum wind strength in your county.
You also might calculate the forces on the top bracket.

Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL        Mail: aa4lr@arrl.net
Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
             -- Wilbur Wright, 1901

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