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Re: [TowerTalk] Low Bad DXing 40m beam

To: "'Towertalk'" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Low Bad DXing 40m beam
From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
Reply-to: k1ttt@k1ttt.net
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 14:20:00 -0000
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
A tram wire is normally connected above where you want the antenna mounted,
often to the mast above the top of the tower.  When you tension the wire and
add the weight of the antenna it exerts large side forces on the mast.  The
'back guy' attaches to the same point on the mast and to an anchor on the
back side of the tower away from the tram wire and is tightened to offset
the force from the tram wire.


David Robbins K1TTT
e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
web: http://www.k1ttt.net
AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Mott [mailto:ab8ah@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 14:15
> To: k1ttt@k1ttt.net; 'Towertalk'
> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Low Bad DXing 40m beam
> 
> What is a "back guy" on a tram?  I would assume a helper.  I will be
> putting
> up a 4 element SteppIR using a 6' X 6' aluminum tram trolley suspended by
> 4
> pulleys.  Fred, AB8AH
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Robbins
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:46 AM
> To: 'Towertalk'
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Low Bad DXing 40m beam
> 
> 
> Always use a back guy on a tram, the forces are just too large even with
> relatively small antennas to put on a mast.
> 
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EUGENE SMAR [mailto:ersmar@comcast.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 00:02
> > To: k1ttt@k1ttt.net; 'Towertalk'
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Low Bad DXing 40m beam
> >
> > TT:
> >
> >      ....and a backguy system?
> >
> > 73 de
> > Gene Smar  AD3F
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Robbins" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
> > To: "'Towertalk'" <towertalk@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 7:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Low Bad DXing 40m beam
> >
> >
> > Sounds about right.  the m2 full size 40m 3 ele is 250#.  A good tram
> > system
> > would be required, or a stout crane to get something like that up on a
> > tower.
> >
> >
> > David Robbins K1TTT
> > e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> > web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> > AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:towertalk-
> > > bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of R. Kevin Stover
> > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 23:11
> > > To: Towertalk
> > > Subject: [TowerTalk] Low Bad DXing 40m beam
> > >
> > > Hello all.
> > >
> > > Spent the weekend perusing the latest edition of ON4UN's Low Band
> DXing
> > > and came upon his design for a full size 3 el 40m beam. If I'm doing
> the
> > > conversion right that monster weighs 400+ lbs, 183 kilo's. Is that a
> > > miss print or do 40m beams built hell bent for stout weigh that much?
> > >
> > > Forget the gin pole and probably a tram line as well.
> > >
> > > --
> > > R. Kevin Stover ACØH
> > >
> > > K2/100 #4684
> > >
> > > Reclaim Your Inbox!
> > > http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird
> > >
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> > any
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> any
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Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any questions 
and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.

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