This thread reminds me of the "Sad Tale of Joe Spinoza." I'm sure a few of
the "old timers" on here remember Joe? Joe lived in Concord, CA, not the
easiest place in the state to erect a tower unless you want to call it a
"Spirit Pole" and erect it alongside one of the main streets of the city...
but I digress. Joe's plan was to erect a small UST, TM-433 I believe. He
was dealing with the planning dept. and had to get all sorts of
documentation, including architectural drawings showing how the tower and
antenna would look on his property. Some will remember the outcome, Joe
"pissed off the pope of the planning dept." and never got to erect his
tower. Yes, he was arrogant, and that didn't help things, but no one else
was getting tower permits in Concord so it probably didn't matter much. Now
for "The Rest of the Story." Know what happened to Joe's TM-433? It's
standing tall (well, sort of... as tall as a TM-433 can stand anyway) in
Concord, CA, in the same planning dept. jurisdiction Joe lived in. It's
been up for a few years now, with a nice, shinny F-12 Yagi on top. How did
that happen? The ham (who shall remain anonymous, for reasons only too
obvious to those who remember the "Sad Tale") believed as Chet and others
do, that (in Concord at least) it's much easier to ask for forgiveness than
permission. There must be quite a few followers of that belief because
there are quite a few towers in Concord.
Wishing you all a great Independence (I like that word) Day weekend.
73 - JC, k0hps@amsat.org
-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Jerry K3BZ
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:45 PM
To: Paul Ewing; Kelly Johnson; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Installing a New Tower - Trylon Titan T200-96'
Now that is the true spirit of the courageous American individualist.
There's a good reason why all those others did what they did. If the city of
San Jose is being unreasonable, to heck with 'em. Do it anyway. Congrats,
Paul... and more power to you.
73, Jerry K3BZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Ewing" <pewing@plxtech.com>
To: "'Jim Lux'" <jimlux@earthlink.net>; "Kelly Johnson"
<n6kj.kelly@gmail.com>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Installing a New Tower - Trylon Titan T200-96'
> I have two towers up at my San Jose home. A 40ft crankup with a 6 element
> yagi and a 15ft ground mounted tower with a 144/440 Vertical on it. I put
> them up 15 years ago after my first visit to the City of San Jose. At that
> time, they said a permit is required, they don't issue them and I did like
> everyone else does, I simply put them up. I have been very fortunate in
that
> I have had them up for 15 years w/o any complaints. In addition, I have
> outlasted all of the original neighbors. Each and every neighbor has moved
> into their home since the towers were up. Last Friday, San Jose planning
> dept told me the same thing. A tower permit is required. They don't issue
> them. They said they are the least of my worries. HOA's and Noisy
neighbors
> usually kill any tower project in the early stages. I am hoping to replace
> my 40ft tower with a tower at 55ft and a slightly larger Yagi. San Jose
has
> yet to define an official tower permit policy. They are short staffed and
> focus on larger revenue generating projects such as malls and tract
> developments. I am going to move forward and "do what everyone else does"
> Thank you all for your varied and passionate input.
>
>
> Paul N6PSE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lux
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:04 AM
> To: Kelly Johnson; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Installing a New Tower - Trylon Titan T200-96'
>
> At 08:45 AM 6/28/2005, Kelly Johnson wrote:
> >San Jose is like most cities...the building department won't cite you
> >for an infraction unless someone complains. If you put one up w/o a
> >permit, then you run the risk that a neighbor WILL complain. At that
> >point, the building inspector has no option but to cite you and tell
> >you to take it down. If nobody complains, you're fine, but these days
> >your chances of avoiding a neighbors complaint seem slim.
>
>
> I heartily concur. I had 4 freshly assembled 6BTV verticals just leaning
> up against the kid's playhouse in the back yard, not even installed, and
it
> was less than a week before the "Notice of Violation" showed up in my
> mailbox. The shiny aluminum attracted attention, and also triggered a
> careful examination of whether the playhouse met the setback requirements.
>
> By the way, it's not your neighbors who are necessarily the problem. In
our
> area, most of these sorts of complaints come from real estate agents who
> are concerned about the neighborhood appearance for the houses down the
> street they are trying to sell. The complaint process is anonymous (or,
> more to the point, the complained against person can't find out who
> complained without going to court and finding out during the discovery
> process), so there's no repercussions for spurious complaining (although
> I'll give the code enforcement folks credit.. they do a fair amount of
> filtering).
>
>
>
> >Anyone out there know how change the laws of physics so that an HF
> >yagi on a 12 foot pole works well :-)
>
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