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Re: [TowerTalk] Installing a New Tower - Trylon Titan T200-96'

To: Kelly Johnson <n6kj.kelly@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Installing a New Tower - Trylon Titan T200-96'
From: Jim Jones <K0HY@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 22:21:52 -0600
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Years ago when I lived in San Jose I was told that I could put up 
anything I wanted up to 40
 feet.  Anything higher had to 'move'.  I with the help of the nice lady 
behind the counter figured
that if the tower rotated then it was legal as high as I wanted.  We 
figured movement is movement.
Guess too many liberals have infiltrated the building department.

Good luck to all that still live there.

Jim  K0HY


Kelly Johnson wrote:

>Steve,
>
>It's not as easy as you think.  I've been trying to get a tower permit
>in San Jose for 5 years.  I know I'm not the only one.  There are no
>hoops to jump through: unless you consider a lawsuit to be a "hoop". 
>The last time I spoke to a Sr. Planner I was told: "If you don't like
>our ordinance, then you can go talk to the City Attorney".  To the
>best of my knowledge, K6KR was the last ham to get a tower permit in
>San Jose.  The building department would not even accept my building
>permit application.  They told me that they wouldn't accept something
>that is in violation of the zoning ordinance.  K6KR's permit was
>issued as a result of a very liberal interpretation of the zoning
>ordinance: a zoning ordinance that did not explicitly deal with
>antennas.  The building department got SEVERELY slapped for giving
>K6KR his tower permit and they aren't about to give out another one
>without a clear mandate to do so.   I thought the building inspector
>was going to have a heart attack when he saw my plans for the
>foundation of a UST HDX-472!  I was told that a variance is the only
>option.  Several lawyers told me it would be unwise to request a
>variance.  A special use permit, yes, but not a variance.  I was told
>that my only real option was a lawsuit, move to another city, or live
>with it and/or put something up without a permit.
>
>Fred's book is great and it does help many people get through this
>mess, but it doesn't guarantee success without a lawsuit.  Most people
>have a tough enough time affording their mortgage in San Jose and they
>don't have spare cash laying around with which to file suit. 
>Basically, the Planning Department seemed to be willing to wait it out
>until someone actually filed a suit.  Hey, they can do whatever they
>want until someone sues, right?
>
>
>
>On 6/27/05, K7LXC@aol.com <K7LXC@aol.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>In a message dated 6/27/2005 4:38:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>>towertalk-request@contesting.com writes:
>>
>>    
>>
>>> I went to the City of San Jose Building Permits office on Friday and asked
>>>      
>>>
>>About the permit process to put up a freestanding 60 ft tower in my back
>>yard. They said "can't do it" They won't issue tower permits. They told me
>>That all the towers I see in San Jose are un-permitted. They had heard of
>>PRB-1 and were in talks with the ARRL.
>>
>>    
>>
>>> They implied that I should "do what everyone else does".
>>>      
>>>
>>   That's right. Get a copy of the ARRL tower information (I don't know what
>>the nomenclature of it is - sorry). Get a copy of K1VR's incredible book on
>>towers and zoning, permit, etc. issues. Get a copy of the building codes.
>>Contact your ARRL representative.
>>
>>   You don't have any real questions or perspective yet. Do your homework
>>with the above and THEN head to the building department.
>>
>>   I know that K6KR screwed things up some years ago so there are
>>restrictions but you should be able to do it by jumping thru all the hoops. 
>>Also the
>>ham-law reflector is good when you get to the point of having specific 
>>questions
>>- that's where are the legal eagles hang out.
>>
>>   LXC Prime Building Department Directive: Find one person in the
>>department who is either sympathetic or knowledgeable or both and stick with 
>>them. If
>>you talk to 3 different people in the building department you'll wind up with 
>>3
>>different interpretations. Talk to other local hams who have gone thru the
>>process and talk to them - especially if they can give you a name of someone 
>>in
>>the building department.
>>
>>Cheers & GL,
>>Steve    K7LXC
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