I might add to Jim's excellent response that the solar panels will "catch" a
lot of wind and cause wind loading. Be sure to design for that wind loading
and put equal areas of panel on each side of the tower so that the twisting
torque on the tower will be minimized...
Chuck W5PR
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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 5:47 PM
To: Daniel James Muth; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] tower novice seeks advice
At 09:42 AM 5/6/2005, Daniel James Muth wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>As part of my dissertation project I need to erect a 130'
>tower above a lodgepole pine canopy in Montana (atmospheric
>measurements). The most demanding equipment load will be four 120W
>solar panels that will be powering my instrumentation. The base of the
>tower will be shielded from excessive wind up to about 90' by the
>forest canopy. Any suggestions as to tower solutions that are
>affordable and up to the task? The more options the merrier. Thanks,
>
>DM
>
>Daniel Muth
>University of Virginia
>Department of Environmental Sciences
>291 McCormick Rd.
>P.O. Box 400123
>Charlottesville, VA 22904-4123
>(434)924-0594 phone
>(434)982-2137 fax
Hie thee on over to Thornton Hall and find someone in the Civil
Engineering department of your college to advise you. This is, after all,
what civil engineers do for a living, and realistically, it's a design
problem that's fairly straightforward, albeit with enough traps and
complexities that if you have no background, you shouldn't take it on.
How big are your panels? (size and weight) What orientation are they mounted
in? Do they need to be at the top, or can they be at "treetop"
level, and the instrumentation at the top?
What's affordable?
How long does it have to sit there?
What's the regulatory wind and ice requirement for the location? What's the
"practical" wind and ice requirement? (The rules may allow you to design for
70 mi/hr and no ice, but if you expect it to stand up in 120 mi/hr gusts
with 6" of ice on it, you need to design for that)
What's the impact of failure: i.e. if it blows down, but nobody gets hurt,
and most of your equipment survives, you can just put it back up; that's
very different from you've got a million dollar LIDAR mounted at the top and
there's a preschool at the base.
You've got a few basic strategies, all based on using a guyed tower of some
sort, which for 130 ft, may be your best bet, cost wise. If your panels are
in the 3x5 foot range, you've got a lot of square feet of sail area (60
square feet).
1) Pick a tower from the catalog that's got more than enough capacity for
your load (typically figured in terms of weight and "sail" area), and use
the manufacturer's recommended installation. This won't allow for any
increased capacity from the wind shielding, etc., so it's going to be big
and sturdy.
2) Hire a professional engineer to analyze the situation and formulate a
recommendation. The engineer will be able to take into account the wind
shielding, etc.
A lot depends on your regulatory environment. Most towers that high are
going to need a fairly good sized chunk of concrete in the ground, which in
a lot of places would require a building permit. The regulatory environment
will determine whether you need a P.E. (licensed in Montana) to do the
analysis and design.
Jim Lux
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