Don't kid yourself. So-called "rich" neighborhoods also have covenants
enforced by an association. Yes, even the "rich" society has a smattering
of residents that feel compelled to force their standards upon others. I
know this because of experience related by my daughter who lives in an
exclusive residential area affordable only by multi-millionaires.
Keith
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Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [BULK] - Re: [BULK] - Re: [BULK] - Re: Tower
Restrictions
CC&R's and HOA's are a way for middle income people to create neighborhoods
that make them FEEL like they are rich.
Rich people have always been able to buy a large lot and a large home and
plant trees (if necessary) to maintain their privacy. They've always been
able to buy homes in upscale neighborhoods where people that park beat up
tracks in the driveway and hang clothes out to dry in the backyard can't
afford to live. Most rich people have no need (or desire) to place
themselves under such restrictions in order to protect themselves from
someone putting a car up on blocks next door.
Buying into an "upscale" neighborhood has the same effect. They already
know that their neighborhood is so expensive that it is unlikely they will
wind up with a neighbor that hangs clothes out to dry in the back yard or
parks their beat up RV in the driveway.
Snooty, BMW drivin' middle class people who can only afford their BMW
because it is leased and their credit cards are maxed out are the ones that
like CC&Rs and HOAs because it creates the feel of a "rich"
neighborhood without requiring the same investment. They want to "feel"
rich even though they aren't.
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:13:17 -0800, Steve Katz <stevek@jmr.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> The house I had with the restriction on liquor sales was in L.A. (West
> Hills). I figured the guy who sold the land to the developer must
> have been a teetotaler. L.A. was pretty antenna friendly. When I was
> living with my folks in Santa Monica in the 1950s, the zoning
> administrator was a neighbor. I asked him about putting in a tower
> and he said there were no rules one way or the other, so go ahead
> (that probably has changed a bit).
>
> ::Hi Bob. Actually, it hasn't changed much. Although the Coastal
> Commission admins anything within a few miles of the ocean, so Santa
> Monica has more rules than inland locations do. L.A. remains a very
> ham-friendly city, with the only problem being private deed restrictions
in some places.
> Curiously enough (check it out, this is very true), the more affluent
> the neighborhood, the less likely there will be any deed restrictions at
all.
> Newport Beach, where the average home is probably $2-1/2 million or
> so, permits amateur towers to 70 feet without the need for any variance or
CUP.
> Hidden Hills, just a few miles SW of West Hills, has an average home
> value of ~$3 Million and has no CC&Rs at all -- there are hundreds of
> homes there, and quite a number of hams. The notion that CC&Rs mean a
"better community"
> somehow just doesn't wash, anywhere. It's baloney.
>
> When I lived in Tucson, AZ it seemed that antenna restrictions were
> everywhere (covenents, not city or county requirements).
>
> ::I agree, from my research, AZ is among the worst on this count -- in
> fact, until I did quite a lot of research, I reckoned CC&Rs actually
> started in AZ (they didn't).
>
> ::73, Steve WB2WIK/6
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