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Re: [TowerTalk] parasitic 4-square for 40 meters

To: Paul Playford <w8aef@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] parasitic 4-square for 40 meters
From: Gary Schafer <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Reply-to: garyschafer@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:15:20 -0500
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How high off the ground are the radials.
Do you tie radials together at their ends inside the square where they 
cross each other?

Thanks
Gary  K4FMX

Paul Playford wrote:
> per W1XT:
> 
> Use 8 elevated radials for each vertical element, and the whole system has
> got to be isolated from ground.
> 
> The drive points of the vertical elements are 1/4 wavelength apart, on a
> square.
> 
> Install the element support structures.
> 
> Install two radials in the form of a dipole and trim to length at desired
> operating frequency.  Resonance is 0 ohms reactance on the MFJ.
> 
> Cut the rest of the radials to this length and install.
> 
> Install the identical vertical elements (slightly long to allow trimming to
> length)
> 
> Install feed lines to each element, consisting of 3/8 wavelength
> (electrical) of RG-213 (or equal) - measure this with your MFJ 259B as the
> real velocity factor is not always as published.  Once you determine the VF
> of a roll of coax it will be the same for the whole roll.
> 
> Fabricate a relay box: one DPST relay for each element.  Wire the relays
> such that when one relay is operated it will connect the center conductor
> and the shield of the transmission line (from the transmitter) to the center
> conductor and shield of the feed line to one element - the center conductors
> and shields of the other 3 feed lines will remain open from each other and
> the transmission line.  The fed element is the driven element and the other
> 3 will be reflectors.
> 
> Observe the resonant frequency of each driven element by switching the
> direction relays.
> 
> Allow a little 'Kentucky windage' (the resonant frequencies will probably
> not be the same) and trim each vertical element the same amount to your
> desired operating frequency.
> 
> When completed all radials will be of equal length and all vertical elements
> will be identical.  The vertical elements will be a little bit longer than
> the radials.
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> FWIW, the handbook parasitic sloping dipole array was installed on W1XT's
> tower - his old call, can't remember what it was.
> 
> Bob had an array installed about 1 mile from my QTH.  We are both weak
> signal Dxers and if I could hear/work a station with my 4 square phased
> array he could also, and vice versa.  So we rated the arrays as equal.
> 
> I modeled both arrays with EZNEC 3.0, which really cannot handle that many
> segments, but my conclusion is that the parasitic array is narrower in
> bandwidth than the phased array.  EZNEC 3.0 shows 40m as not a problem but
> 75m and 80m cannot be done parasitically.
> 
> de Paul, W8AEF
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ron Feutz
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 4:29 AM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] parasitic 4-square for 40 meters
> 
> 
> 
>>TT'ers
>>
>>I have everything I need for a parasitic 40 meter 4-square but can't 
>>find design info.
>>
>>I want to try this antenna as my marginal cost will be zero.  I have 4 33'
>>verticals, an Ameritron RSC 8-V switch and plenty of radial wire and 
>>coax on hand.
>>
>>Any info on design and tuning will be appreciated.  I believe the 
>>design has 3 "reflectors" that use the inductive reactance of the open 
>>feedline to make them "reflectors,"  right.  How long should the 
>>feedlines be?  I can tune with the MFJ 259B.
>>
>>Any models out there to tell me what to expect?
>>
>>Archive and google search turned up nothing.
>>
>>73,
>>
>>Ron KK9K
> 
> 
> 
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